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Post by agentf on Dec 22, 2021 14:09:40 GMT -5
Thank God it's a painting. Or filter, whatever. It's a definite improvement.
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Post by paca on Dec 22, 2021 14:13:59 GMT -5
yeah, that way they can all look better than in real life without undergoing surgery, although the painter has been unkind to Jaques. He looks better in real life.
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Post by donna on Dec 22, 2021 16:13:59 GMT -5
I thought the same: What a brilliant idea to have a painting instead of a photo. This way, they can make her look friendly and nice. I hope they do it every year from now, at least paint her, the rest can be photographed.
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Post by donna on Dec 22, 2021 16:16:47 GMT -5
yeah, that way they can all look better than in real life without undergoing surgery, although the painter has been unkind to Jaques. He looks better in real life. Not just surgery to look better, but get rid of her hostility and arrogance.
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Post by agentf on Dec 22, 2021 22:18:43 GMT -5
It makes the fiction truer, since it was a fairy tale they were always after. yeah, that way they can all look better than in real life without undergoing surgery, although the painter has been unkind to Jaques. He looks better in real life. Not just surgery to look better, but get rid of her hostility and arrogance.
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2021 8:25:22 GMT -5
So, according to Albert she is making progress, but will take another couple of months... (well, given his previous statements, make that a year at least. But more likely years. At least out of public view. She probably just got all the meds out of her system and is past the physical withdrawal, but that doesn't mean anything. They are just starting treatment and who knows what they will discover as the root of her problems. Albert is way too optimistic IMO. There is a reason why his family is stepping up full force.) Not sure if Albert is using this to reshape his image into dutiful husband and father. NOt buying the first, but not doubting his claim in fatherhood. www.monacomatin.mc/sante/le-prince-albert-ii-donne-des-nouvelles-de-son-epouse-la-princesse-charlene-735398
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2021 8:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Dec 23, 2021 9:20:02 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2021 12:54:34 GMT -5
well, as I said, I doubt that she will be seen in public before next NH, if at all. She doesn't like her public role. Never did and she refused to learn. So I don't see her returning to that part of her life. Maybe they will go the masako road, but her husband has been supportive from day one plus no one ever doubted their relationship. Also I doubt that Monegasques will tolerate such an arrangement, especially since she never had a good relationship with them. Had she'd been loved by them and fallen ill, they would have rooted for her and fiercely protected her. But the way she lived the past 10 years, they won't cut her much slack. And that bit only because of the children. If there will be a seperation or divorce , they will not mention her again. Just like no one ever mentions the exes of his sisters. There is no down talking, they just cease to exist.
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Post by agentf on Dec 23, 2021 13:47:21 GMT -5
Do the Monégasques hold much sway and be able to force the marriage to end? In this day and age? 🤔 well, as I said, I doubt that she will be seen in public before next NH, if at all. She doesn't like her public role. Never did and she refused to learn. So I don't see her returning to that part of her life. Maybe they will go the masako road, but her husband has been supportive from day one plus no one ever doubted their relationship. Also I doubt that Monegasques will tolerate such an arrangement, especially since she never had a good relationship with them. Had she'd been loved by them and fallen ill, they would have rooted for her and fiercely protected her. But the way she lived the past 10 years, they won't cut her much slack. And that bit only because of the children. If there will be a seperation or divorce , they will not mention her again. Just like no one ever mentions the exes of his sisters. There is no down talking, they just cease to exist.
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Post by agentf on Dec 23, 2021 13:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2021 15:43:33 GMT -5
Do the Monégasques hold much sway and be able to force the marriage to end? In this day and age? 🤔 well, as I said, I doubt that she will be seen in public before next NH, if at all. She doesn't like her public role. Never did and she refused to learn. So I don't see her returning to that part of her life. Maybe they will go the masako road, but her husband has been supportive from day one plus no one ever doubted their relationship. Also I doubt that Monegasques will tolerate such an arrangement, especially since she never had a good relationship with them. Had she'd been loved by them and fallen ill, they would have rooted for her and fiercely protected her. But the way she lived the past 10 years, they won't cut her much slack. And that bit only because of the children. If there will be a seperation or divorce , they will not mention her again. Just like no one ever mentions the exes of his sisters. There is no down talking, they just cease to exist. actually, yes they do. maybe not end the marriage, but put pressure on Albert. CW not being there, weakens him. Also the elected body may question the impact on Jaques and Gabriella. They may demand him to open up and investigate if there is any danger to their well being. Like all other children, they have a right to be protected and since one of them will be ruling the country one day, protecting them is in the Monegasques interest. So depending on what is really going on, they may pressure him to divorce or stepdown and let Caro and her lot take over. This is not just a marriage, it is a constitutional and political issue. MC is not Britain. The prince actually has power and thus his marriage and the impact of it on his heirs is not a private matter. As a private person he can do what he likes, but as a prince he has to insure the wellbeing of his heirs. If their mother is an obstacle to that, she needs to go or he needs to go including the heirs. there are possibilities for them to remain heirs, but that would entail being seperated from both parents under guardianship. My guess is though that Albert would chose divorce.
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Post by donna on Dec 24, 2021 11:51:35 GMT -5
I think it would look badly on him to announce plans to divorce while she is still recovering. Even if it were their mutual wish to divorce, I think they will wait until she is back to her old self.
Having been through divorce myself, I say that sometimes something drastic is needed to finally break free, especially if the other person doesn't want to divorce. So her mental breakdown could give her the necessary boost to give up and ask for the divorce. Hopefully this helps her realize that a golden crown could ever bring her happiness, no matter how much she wished for it. If Albert is bullying and controlling, she will never find happiness with him.
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Post by paca on Dec 24, 2021 12:48:34 GMT -5
If Albert were bullying or controlling, he would be Rainier. Quite on the contrary. He is too trusting and naive for his own good. As to her returning to her old self: not happening. And even she wouldn't wish for it. Her old self is what caused her problems to begin with. A functioning self that can live without the help of others. AKA adult. What we have seen so far was an overgrown and indulged child. Lets hope she will get closer to adulthood.
And yes a divorce would look bad while she is still ill, but lets be honest, her treatment will cost millions, if she continues with them. And the outcome is not guaranteed. Once she is well enough to be treated as an outpatient, I think she will return to MC, but not public duty. That I don't see her doing. Anyways that will give enough semblance of normalty, to start divorce behind the scene, if they wish. It is irrelevant if they divorce in 22 or 23. They have spent enough time apart to spin it with everyone saving face. It never was a proper marriage from the publics view. The kids are IVF, so why apply notmal rules on them. It was an arranged mattiage that doesn't work. She will come out of it wealthier than she went in. And when she gets out, at least she can stop lying. That has to bea relief.
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Post by paca on Dec 25, 2021 13:44:05 GMT -5
another poxy video from her foundation. Personally I don't see anything in it to want to donate. Locations are mainly SA, Monaco and Corsica. SA is featuring heavily. Looks like CHantelle went overboard with xmas spending and needs more money. I doubt that they have a lot of donations in SA. http://instagram.com/p/CX2-OimoiEJ
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Post by donna on Dec 25, 2021 15:33:58 GMT -5
The link doesn't work. Are you sure it is the correct link? instagr.am ...
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Post by paca on Dec 25, 2021 18:15:24 GMT -5
must be a problem at your end. If you can see the pic in my post, you can play it right here. Or just google her IG.
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Post by paca on Dec 26, 2021 14:42:47 GMT -5
now that is a first. She actually posted about the death of Desmond Tutu. Obviously she doesn't pay tribute to his importance or his historical role and his criticism of the ANC. Her posting is trivial and superficial. And about herself. IMO Chantelle wrote this on her behalf. Just as I believe she posted the latest video. though I think there is no diff. they are both not deep or educated. so it doesn't matter which one of them is posting. http://instagram.com/p/CX9AHGasUNb
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Post by margarita on Dec 26, 2021 16:19:52 GMT -5
Why can't she simply stop posting but focus on her recovery? And why the hospital and/ or the Palace don't cut off the chanel so far? I mean - Albert himself said she needs peace now.
And -yes, paca- it is again mainly about her and herself. Like was her birthday post for the twins. "I'm so blessed having you." 🙄 But the poor kids are not blessed by having a mother like you. Ever thought about it?! And I don't mean by that having mental issues. That can hit anyone. But being absolute egoistic and not grown up.
They gave you the chance to get out of the circus for a while and to focus on your true self. To get healthy. WHY these posts??
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Post by agentf on Dec 26, 2021 19:06:10 GMT -5
Is she ripping off QE2's reference to the missed laughter of her late husband?!? Seriously?? now that is a first. She actually posted about the death of Desmond Tutu. Obviously she doesn't pay tribute to his importance or his historical role and his criticism of the ANC. Her posting is trivial and superficial. And about herself. IMO Chantelle wrote this on her behalf. Just as I believe she posted the latest video. though I think there is no diff. they are both not deep or educated. so it doesn't matter which one of them is posting. http://instagr.am/p/CX9AHGasUNb
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