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Post by mrszinck on May 11, 2014 9:54:30 GMT -5
Nicole Kidman expressed in a given interview to British newspaper The Daily Mail . from monaco Matin :
"Australian actress 47 years added: "I know they are angry I would too if it was my mother.". But she still insisted that the film was "not intended to be a biopic. Obviously I did my best to honor what was true in this project."
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Post by taz on May 11, 2014 11:21:19 GMT -5
IMO it's not Grace who's shown in a bad light but Rainier and Monaco. Grace hasn't been accepted in Monaco and in the princely family for a long time. She was too free-minded and modern, people were too conservative and everything she did was seen as wrong. Apart from that Rainier was a control freak IMO he was stuck in his ways and simply demanded her to adapt - the typical aristocrat of the time. But in public the marriage was portrait as a fairytale and G and R were the perfect couple which was simply not true. IMO G regretted marrying R but she was trapped as she became pregnant immediately and couldn't leave her kid(s) behind. G was so naive thinking she could return to Hollywood after her kids were born. This is simply impossible no princess can return to their old job even today. Back than they said that R allowed G to do Marnie and that it was G's decision not to do it because she didn't want to disappoint the Monegasques. IMO this is BS and R would have never allowed her to kiss another man even if it was just on screen. Not because he loved her so much but because he wanted G to play only one role for the rest of her life and that was the role of Princess of Monaco and nothing else. IMO G really embraced her role after realizing that she would never return to Hollywood. I'm sure G and R got close to each other with time but only years later G felt comfortable in her role. And then the problems with her kids started and then she died too early. So IMO G wasn't very happy in her life but played her role perfectly so that the public never noticed. So now the family fears to lose the perfect image R and G created as there's nothing else in Monaco. Monaco is still Grace. They haven't managed to transfer the fairytale marriage from one generation to the other. In e.g. Sweden and the Netherlands they did that really well - in Monaco they tried but failed miserably. IMO A and C are simply bad actors and as we know don't love each other. So A either had to find a woman he really loved (but he's not marriage material as he just loves his bachelor life too much IMO) or marry a woman who was a great actress like his mother.
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Post by mrszinck on May 11, 2014 12:06:56 GMT -5
OMG just heard on television: "the film reminds A & C" sssst Charlene OMG - how low can you go ... RIP R & G
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Post by mrszinck on May 11, 2014 12:34:05 GMT -5
I'm thinking - I'm talking to myself... the protest of the family and the film ... ?? it may be that Albert sees himself? Charlene is so much working in MC .. totally crazy (hospital from Caro?) Stephanie ... always been easy for albert - where is caroline? she is so quiet?
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Post by tops on May 11, 2014 13:20:13 GMT -5
IMO it's not Grace who's shown in a bad light but Rainier and Monaco. Grace hasn't been accepted in Monaco and in the princely family for a long time. She was too free-minded and modern, people were too conservative and everything she did was seen as wrong. Apart from that Rainier was a control freak IMO he was stuck in his ways and simply demanded her to adapt - the typical aristocrat of the time. But in public the marriage was portrait as a fairytale and G and R were the perfect couple which was simply not true. IMO G regretted marrying R but she was trapped as she became pregnant immediately and couldn't leave her kid(s) behind. G was so naive thinking she could return to Hollywood after her kids were born. This is simply impossible no princess can return to their old job even today. Back than they said that R allowed G to do Marnie and that it was G's decision not to do it because she didn't want to disappoint the Monegasques. IMO this is BS and R would have never allowed her to kiss another man even if it was just on screen. Not because he loved her so much but because he wanted G to play only one role for the rest of her life and that was the role of Princess of Monaco and nothing else. IMO G really embraced her role after realizing that she would never return to Hollywood. I'm sure G and R got close to each other with time but only years later G felt comfortable in her role. And then the problems with her kids started and then she died too early. So IMO G wasn't very happy in her life but played her role perfectly so that the public never noticed. So now the family fears to lose the perfect image R and G created as there's nothing else in Monaco. Monaco is still Grace. They haven't managed to transfer the fairytale marriage from one generation to the other. In e.g. Sweden and the Netherlands they did that really well - in Monaco they tried but failed miserably. IMO A and C are simply bad actors and as we know don't love each other. So A either had to find a woman he really loved (but he's not marriage material as he just loves his bachelor life too much IMO) or marry a woman who was a great actress like his mother. In "The Grimaldi Dynasty" A&E Biography, 2005 (DVD available online), Oleg Cassini who was interviewed questioned Grace on her return to NYC about becoming engaged to Rainier. He asked how she could do that when she was in love with HIM, (Oleg), Grace supposedly replied "I will learn to love him." Grace had a wild reputation as an actress and to marry a stodgy item like Rainier surely clipped her wings. I can imagine her sheer frustration to be captured and serve as a commercial draw for bankrupt Monaco when Rainier was rumored to still be cavorting with some lady on the Riviera. Rainier gave the tone for Monaco being a male dominated society and Albert has continued that tone with his using women mainly for arm pieces and sex. This tone runs through the SBM as well. the best paid women in Monaco are the hookers, mistresses and trophy wives. (yes, there are some successful bankers, real estate women, bar owners and lawyers who are women but hard to find). i dare you to name one former girlfriend (who may genuinely fall in love) who has really benefited from any relationship with him. He will not let them or aid them. They do fine in business when they are dating him and then complete alienation (business failures) when they break up. His a-hole male buddies crack deals with his name (black-mail?) but women who associate his name with their business are condemned. Tamara had a drunken summer tryst with him and the misfortune of pregnancy and he ran from her and resented his daughter for years. Nicole, who had made many friends in Monaco was condemned by Rainier but she got back at Al by purposely getting pregnant on her birthday. She knew it was the only way to profit from the years of serving him and being his booty. (Funny how he is attracted to lanky, gawky, boyish women.) So, the Grimaldi's best understand the pendulum is swinging and they must learn to expect that they can't always have their way.
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Post by agentf on May 12, 2014 8:40:46 GMT -5
That's a pretty shameless plug, TOPS lol Does anyone here have shares in sales of DVD?.... Rather than lay everything squarely on Grace, is it not possible she chucked Cassini for Rainier basically because he was married? I'd say that was a conscientious move to break with bad patterns IMO. As per "wildness", really??? Being sexually liberated thanks to the cover of privilege is nothing new. Morality has long been the purview of the masses. Your class allows for a lot to be swept under a rug. I still think Grace was not the worst spoiled rich American on the Riviera. Let's keep things in perspective. And I personally resent the presumption that she was late to bond with her children. Bullshit, I say. The Grimaldi didn't suffer from a distant aristocratic mother. It's plain as day to see. On the contrary, they may have taken too many liberties that other aristocrats don't, on the basis of their American-ness. These posts make it easy to see why Grace is still a target of sensationalism. Her actions are underplayed in contrast to people's fantasies about Grace. Truth and reality unfortunately don't sell DVDs... IMO it's not Grace who's shown in a bad light but Rainier and Monaco. Grace hasn't been accepted in Monaco and in the princely family for a long time. She was too free-minded and modern, people were too conservative and everything she did was seen as wrong. Apart from that Rainier was a control freak IMO he was stuck in his ways and simply demanded her to adapt - the typical aristocrat of the time. But in public the marriage was portrait as a fairytale and G and R were the perfect couple which was simply not true. IMO G regretted marrying R but she was trapped as she became pregnant immediately and couldn't leave her kid(s) behind. G was so naive thinking she could return to Hollywood after her kids were born. This is simply impossible no princess can return to their old job even today. Back than they said that R allowed G to do Marnie and that it was G's decision not to do it because she didn't want to disappoint the Monegasques. IMO this is BS and R would have never allowed her to kiss another man even if it was just on screen. Not because he loved her so much but because he wanted G to play only one role for the rest of her life and that was the role of Princess of Monaco and nothing else. IMO G really embraced her role after realizing that she would never return to Hollywood. I'm sure G and R got close to each other with time but only years later G felt comfortable in her role. And then the problems with her kids started and then she died too early. So IMO G wasn't very happy in her life but played her role perfectly so that the public never noticed. So now the family fears to lose the perfect image R and G created as there's nothing else in Monaco. Monaco is still Grace. They haven't managed to transfer the fairytale marriage from one generation to the other. In e.g. Sweden and the Netherlands they did that really well - in Monaco they tried but failed miserably. IMO A and C are simply bad actors and as we know don't love each other. So A either had to find a woman he really loved (but he's not marriage material as he just loves his bachelor life too much IMO) or marry a woman who was a great actress like his mother. In "The Grimaldi Dynasty" A&E Biography, 2005 (DVD available online), Oleg Cassini who was interviewed questioned Grace on her return to NYC about becoming engaged to Rainier. He asked how she could do that when she was in love with HIM, (Oleg), Grace supposedly replied "I will learn to love him." Grace had a wild reputation as an actress and to marry a stodgy item like Rainier surely clipped her wings. I can imagine her sheer frustration to be captured and serve as a commercial draw for bankrupt Monaco when Rainier was rumored to still be cavorting with some lady on the Riviera. Rainier gave the tone for Monaco being a male dominated society and Albert has continued that tone with his using women mainly for arm pieces and sex. This tone runs through the SBM as well. the best paid women in Monaco are the hookers, mistresses and trophy wives. (yes, there are some successful bankers, real estate women, bar owners and lawyers who are women but hard to find). i dare you to name one former girlfriend (who may genuinely fall in love) who has really benefited from any relationship with him. He will not let them or aid them. They do fine in business when they are dating him and then complete alienation (business failures) when they break up. His a-hole male buddies crack deals with his name (black-mail?) but women who associate his name with their business are condemned. Tamara had a drunken summer tryst with him and the misfortune of pregnancy and he ran from her and resented his daughter for years. Nicole, who had made many friends in Monaco was condemned by Rainier but she got back at Al by purposely getting pregnant on her birthday. She knew it was the only way to profit from the years of serving him and being his booty. (Funny how he is attracted to lanky, gawky, boyish women.) So, the Grimaldi's best understand the pendulum is swinging and they must learn to expect that they can't always have their way.
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Post by tops on May 12, 2014 10:17:27 GMT -5
That's a pretty shameless plug, TOPS lol Does anyone here have shares in sales of DVD?.... Rather than lay everything squarely on Grace, is it not possible she chucked Cassini for Rainier basically because he was married? I'd say that was a conscientious move to break with bad patterns IMO. As per "wildness", really??? Being sexually liberated thanks to the cover of privilege is nothing new. Morality has long been the purview of the masses. Your class allows for a lot to be swept under a rug. I still think Grace was not the worst spoiled rich American on the Riviera. Let's keep things in perspective. And I personally resent the presumption that she was late to bond with her children. Bullshit, I say. The Grimaldi didn't suffer from a distant aristocratic mother. It's plain as day to see. On the contrary, they may have taken too many liberties that other aristocrats don't, on the basis of their American-ness. These posts make it easy to see why Grace is still a target of sensationalism. Her actions are underplayed in contrast to people's fantasies about Grace. Truth and reality unfortunately don't sell DVDs... In "The Grimaldi Dynasty" A&E Biography, 2005 (DVD available online), Oleg Cassini who was interviewed questioned Grace on her return to NYC about becoming engaged to Rainier. He asked how she could do that when she was in love with HIM, (Oleg), Grace supposedly replied "I will learn to love him." Grace had a wild reputation as an actress and to marry a stodgy item like Rainier surely clipped her wings. I can imagine her sheer frustration to be captured and serve as a commercial draw for bankrupt Monaco when Rainier was rumored to still be cavorting with some lady on the Riviera. Rainier gave the tone for Monaco being a male dominated society and Albert has continued that tone with his using women mainly for arm pieces and sex. This tone runs through the SBM as well. the best paid women in Monaco are the hookers, mistresses and trophy wives. (yes, there are some successful bankers, real estate women, bar owners and lawyers who are women but hard to find). i dare you to name one former girlfriend (who may genuinely fall in love) who has really benefited from any relationship with him. He will not let them or aid them. They do fine in business when they are dating him and then complete alienation (business failures) when they break up. His a-hole male buddies crack deals with his name (black-mail?) but women who associate his name with their business are condemned. Tamara had a drunken summer tryst with him and the misfortune of pregnancy and he ran from her and resented his daughter for years. Nicole, who had made many friends in Monaco was condemned by Rainier but she got back at Al by purposely getting pregnant on her birthday. She knew it was the only way to profit from the years of serving him and being his booty. (Funny how he is attracted to lanky, gawky, boyish women.) So, the Grimaldi's best understand the pendulum is swinging and they must learn to expect that they can't always have their way. Well, i don't profit from the DVD. it's only an hour long, even its though tabloid in style but actually entertaining and more like a p.r. piece for tourism for Monaco. also, i apologize, i did not know that Cassini was married! if you say so. hum-m-m. makes me feel differently about the ol' guy. RIP. i just get annoyed that Al can't acknowledge his offspring without a fight. but i will try to not fixate on it... but happy about Nicole's fashion success. she has really bloomed. i think Alex will be attractive.
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Post by agentf on May 12, 2014 12:53:28 GMT -5
Another nice slideshow for you, this one with gorgeous pics of Grace in an article comparing Grace and Nicole Kidman, where they try to say Nicole was the best choice: Un Doigt dans l'Oeil
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Post by agentf on May 12, 2014 13:16:23 GMT -5
No disrespect to Nicole Kidman, but one way the Grimaldis can tank this movie premiere is to make sure Tom Cruise walks that red carpet behind Kidman. No one will remember the movie. Come on, you're rich enough to make it happen and you have 48 hours. Don't thank me. Honour thy parents. And here's why Tom Cruise would come: Oh really??AND he has a new movie to promote: Edge of TomorrowKind of à propos, wouldn't you say?
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Post by mrszinck on May 13, 2014 8:33:41 GMT -5
Cannes 2014: "The royal family is not invited to Cannes," says Thierry Fremaux - LOL www.monacomatin.mc
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Post by agentf on May 13, 2014 12:21:24 GMT -5
Cannes 2014: "The royal family is not invited to Cannes," says Thierry Fremaux - LOL www.monacomatin.mcThis guy is about as pompous as Nicole Kidman drawing parallels between herself and Grace when she "empathizes" that her children too would be upset if the shoe were on their foot. I'm sorry, children of a country singer do not fully equate children of a prince. Who are we kidding? It carries the scope of the delusion surrounding this film. The director does not have a claim on Grace over that of her own children. I think in the future, Grace's estate should copyright her image and sue, when such projects fall outside the fair use of the public domain.
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Post by mrszinck on May 14, 2014 0:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 14, 2014 6:34:13 GMT -5
The film is qualified as a ... wooden performance, a catastrophe: Fire Risk
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Post by agentf on May 14, 2014 6:40:56 GMT -5
She looks like Elizabeth Montgomery of Ma Sorcière Bien-Aimée/Bewitched... The photos without lighting are more flattering. I pity Tim Roth in all this. He was so good in Rob Roy and the Quentin Tarantino stuff...
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Post by agentf on May 14, 2014 7:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by tops on May 14, 2014 9:30:00 GMT -5
OMG, doesn't look like it will even make it to the DVD sales. or the airplanes. what were the creators smoking?
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Post by axelle on May 14, 2014 19:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by mrszinck on May 15, 2014 0:28:50 GMT -5
they should have kept quiet - now it is in all the newspapers ... and they make it even worse! The film "Grace of Monaco" will not be distributed to Monaco. - Presented on Wednesday at the opening of the Cannes Film Festival, the film "Grace of Monaco" will not make career in the Principality. The only cinema in the country chose not to broadcast on its screens. A decision by the Director places, Thierry Tréhet, "without being influenced by anyone." He chose to be supportive of the princely family, dissatisfied with this feature film by Olivier Dahan. - www.monacomatin.mcthe idiots! - the Monégasque will go see the movie in Menton or Nice... ;-)
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Post by grimnir on May 15, 2014 3:06:47 GMT -5
I've totally missed why Monaco, after letting them film in Monaco first, suddenly has changed its mind and decided to disagree with the film. (They did film there? I remember something about it. Tell me I'm not mad. Well, madder anyway.) But I suppose it's too much of a conspiracy theory to suspect the opposition and fuss is just an act to generate more publicity?
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Post by tops on May 15, 2014 4:08:06 GMT -5
I've totally missed why Monaco, after letting them film in Monaco first, suddenly has changed its mind and decided to disagree with the film. (They did film there? I remember something about it. Tell me I'm not mad. Well, madder anyway.) But I suppose it's too much of a conspiracy theory to suspect the opposition and fuss is just an act to generate more publicity? maybe you should read the article in axelle's post: Time weighs in: Just How Accurate Is the Controversial Cannes Opener Grace of Monaco? time.com/99501/grace-of-monaco-fact-checking-accuracy/ Read more: royalopinions.proboards.com/thread/589/new-film-on-grace-kelly?page=6#ixzz31m0RRcRXjust because they filmed part of it in Monaco, and even if the family approved the script, obviously more was put in that the family does not agree with. directors are notorious for twisting scripts. gosh knows how the writer came up with his premise. the editor must have done a real chop job. this is not the first production or publication to be banned there, and not the last.
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