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Post by agentf on Dec 11, 2014 14:47:12 GMT -5
I admire that Steph went there first. She's such a mom. I think Caro played it well to let Andrea, the head of that branch and a baby lover, represent them at the hospital. It's never a time to stress mothers if they feel inferior to someone like Caro. Besides now we'll probably see a bit less of the Casiraghi babies until the twins have had their day in the spotlight. It's just délicatesse at this point. If afterwards we should expect the conclusion of the marriage contract, the rivalry will be less between Caro & CC, but how CC will give Nicole a run for her money in terms of thorn in the side of any mate Albert will chose next. But we are getting way ahead of ourselves. Suffice it to say, CC will likely use the twins to pass her passive-aggression and always find herself at the forefront even when/if she becomes relegated to a past role. We may be looking at the passing of an era into a new one where CC will grow in power...and use it.
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Post by smt on Dec 11, 2014 14:47:32 GMT -5
Ok, I'm back! I think I'm addicted... The presentation of the twins will take place on January 7, 2015. It will be a holiday and the palace wants people in Monaco to decorate their homes with flags. I assume it's January 7 so Trampy will have time for another nip 'n tuck? Doesn't make sense. Won't there be photos leaving the hospital? Very suspicious
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Post by taz on Dec 11, 2014 15:05:11 GMT -5
Yes, it's a month until January 7. I thought it would be next week. But with a c-section some women can't stand straight for over a week. In two weeks it's Christmas, a week later is New Year's and people tend to go on holiday on these days. They can't do it then as nobody would be there to celebrate with them. Yeah, I'm sure additionally a nip 'n tuck will take place. I think we'll see pics of them leaving the hospital and also Christmas pics etc. but that will be it. IMO CC won't attend any official function until January. BTW will Dec 10 or Jan 7 be a holiday in the future?!
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Post by paca on Dec 11, 2014 15:35:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, mrszinck. Paca, I wanted to ask you about the procedures at the CHPG but you were faster. Thanks. So it seems PA was at least in the hospital during the c-section. We don't know if he was at the birth though. Apart from the names they got one thing right then. I'm sure CC's mom was there as she's the only friend CC has in Monaco... the mail claims he was, but he might have been just in the ante room like my kids father. assisting a c section is not everyones idea spending a nice time. I know I hated it and trust me I felt my babies getting ripped out of me. Felt like I was a car getting gutted. I remember that Letizia said sth about not doing it again after her 2nd c section. Apparently she didn't have a great experience either, though I have heard others rave about it in comparisson to natural birth and then ending up with emergency c section. I'm just glad I got it over with in one go, but I know women who have heaps of kids and just love to be pregnant. well, despite the vomiting for 8 months I just hated the c section. The rest I could have done again. But trashy is used to being cut and getting needles stuck into various body parts so I guess for her, if she did the job herself, it was a walk in the park.
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Post by paca on Dec 11, 2014 15:38:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, mrszinck. Paca, I wanted to ask you about the procedures at the CHPG but you were faster. Thanks. So it seems PA was at least in the hospital during the c-section. We don't know if he was at the birth though. Apart from the names they got one thing right then. I'm sure CC's mom was there as she's the only friend CC has in Monaco... interesting though that there have been no pics of them entering or leaving hospital. wonder if they are all staying there guarding the golden goose whilst Albert just seems to be an occasional visitor pretending to be busy running a tiny country.
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Post by emmeline on Dec 11, 2014 15:51:24 GMT -5
Sooo...Lynette wasn't there with her daughter, apparently. An article in the Benoni Times says that she, Mike and Sean were all in Benoni when she gave birth. And of course, daddy Trashtock had to speak to the press. He just had to. He can't help it, you know. He said " We are very happy with the birth of the twins, this has taken a great deal of pressure from the Prince and the Princess, they have done a great job. I will take the back seat and be a proud grandfather.”
“I will be sending my wife over to be with her, as she has done so with our other children, Sean and Gareth when they had their children, she is her mother and a grandmother to four now and she would want to be by her side.” The Shitstocks in Benoni and papa blabing again
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Post by paca on Dec 11, 2014 15:53:05 GMT -5
Yes, it's a month until January 7. I thought it would be next week. But with a c-section some women can't stand straight for over a week. In two weeks it's Christmas, a week later is New Year's and people tend to go on holiday on these days. They can't do it then as nobody would be there to celebrate with them. Yeah, I'm sure additionally a nip 'n tuck will take place. I think we'll see pics of them leaving the hospital and also Christmas pics etc. but that will be it. IMO CC won't attend any official function until January. BTW will Dec 10 or Jan 7 be a holiday in the future?! yhe holiday is a one of thing, not every year. Means simply that people don't work but get paid and that there is no school. well, I suppose that means that people with children will just stay on holiday longer as the 6th is a public holiday as far as I remember in MC and that is a Tuesday. So no school on Monday as there is no point starting when you have a holiday again, so back to school on Thursday. It's a bit like with their wedding when they had a holiday on both days and since the Friday was the start of summer holidays everyone left a day early to get the cheaper flights or get ahead of traffic. So I guess Monegasques will be there as usual for the freebies, though probably not that manyand residents will just prolong the vacation, whereas commuters will stay at home....
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Post by smt on Dec 11, 2014 15:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Dec 11, 2014 16:01:42 GMT -5
Sooo...Lynette wasn't there with her daughter, apparently. An article in the Benoni Times says that she, Mike and Sean were all in Benoni when she gave birth. And of course, daddy Trashtock had to speak to the press. He just had to. He can't help it, you know. He said " We are very happy with the birth of the twins, this has taken a great deal of pressure from the Prince and the Princess, they have done a great job. I will take the back seat and be a proud grandfather.”
“I will be sending my wife over to be with her, as she has done so with our other children, Sean and Gareth when they had their children, she is her mother and a grandmother to four now and she would want to be by her side.” The Shitstocks in Benoni and papa blabing againso he doesn't want to see them? because its a womans job? Well, I suppose they decided to not give the impression that granny was the surrogate. Still, seeing that they claim to be close and are all living of his money, I would have expected them to be there or at least close by. But this might have been the palace pushing them away making clear that these are heirs to a throne and that this is a Grimaldi thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the trashstocks will find themselves being pushed back to SA. Being welcome in the beginning, but now they will need to stand back. A bit like it happened to the Kellys and the Spencers. I think the Middletons are only getting away with it because Will and George are not close enough to the throne yet. As soon as Charles and Will move up, things will change there too IMO.
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Post by emmeline on Dec 11, 2014 16:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by emmeline on Dec 11, 2014 16:21:49 GMT -5
Oh my God, these sugars... in the spanish forum there's an article comparing Sacha and Raphael, and they call them "little princes of Monaco". Well, a sugary fan of Charlene from that forum came and said "The only little princes in Monaco are the ones that were born yestarday!!!" three exclamation marks. She always writes with lots of exclamation marks. Charlene is an untouchable for her. Imagine now that the Messiahs are born.
Also, i've seen some mockery to Caroline here and there, i thought i was going to see more.
These people...
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Post by emmeline on Dec 11, 2014 16:36:59 GMT -5
Oh, an another sugary declaration from the same forum. This comes from a fan of royalty in general. IT'S PRICELESS
"I said she should have had triplets because the press has treated Charlene very unfairly. The previous days to her wedding they got tired of writting nonsense like she was intercepted escaping Monaco because she found out about a third secret child from Albert II. And the disgust that the poor woman had to have when she read that she herself was running away while she was actually in Paris, with her mother, picking up the shoes she was going to wear at the wedding. Three years and a half after her marriage she finally has given birth to the heir and the spare. And that after having to take as a breakfast day after day during three years any kind of gossip and rumors that she was under pressure to give an heir and that she was victim of a depression....with this birth she shuts and slams many mouths . And if it has been a pregnancy with help of science, well then welcome, i don't see any problems or why should the press be shocked. It wouldn't be the first nor the last woman to do so. There are lots of women that have achieved their dream of becoming a mother thanks to medical advance"
This is a man that has clearly choked into the kool aid. He bought the propaganda Hello mag has made a year ago.
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Post by refia on Dec 11, 2014 16:47:21 GMT -5
Pff I also saw people ridiculing Caro. Pathetic.
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Post by paca on Dec 11, 2014 16:58:14 GMT -5
Pff I also saw people ridiculing Caro. Pathetic. and Caro is so not bothered. She has Pierre marrying Beatrice next year and popping out a baby not soon after and Tatiana will have her second next year, so Caro will be pleased as punch with her lot. plus those kids all have better natural genes in the looks department. Hopefully they will be smart too.
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Post by agentf on Dec 11, 2014 17:59:44 GMT -5
We see that logic or common sense eludes CC's fans. What do triplets have to do with anything he says?! Oh, an another sugary declaration from the same forum. This comes from a fan of royalty in general. IT'S PRICELESS "I said she should have had triplets because the press has treated Charlene very unfairly. The previous days to her wedding they got tired of writting nonsense like she was intercepted escaping Monaco because she found out about a third secret child from Albert II. And the disgust that the poor woman had to have when she read that she herself was running away while she was actually in Paris, with her mother, picking up the shoes she was going to wear at the wedding. Three years and a half after her marriage she finally has given birth to the heir and the spare. And that after having to take as a breakfast day after day during three years any kind of gossip and rumors that she was under pressure to give an heir and that she was victim of a depression....with this birth she shuts and slams many mouths . And if it has been a pregnancy with help of science, well then welcome, i don't see any problems or why should the press be shocked. It wouldn't be the first nor the last woman to do so. There are lots of women that have achieved their dream of becoming a mother thanks to medical advance"
This is a man that has clearly choked into the kool aid. He bought the propaganda Hello mag has made a year ago.
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Post by agentf on Dec 11, 2014 18:02:02 GMT -5
Lynette's absence has been as suspicious as her husband knowing the details of the pregnancy before anyone else... Sooo...Lynette wasn't there with her daughter, apparently. An article in the Benoni Times says that she, Mike and Sean were all in Benoni when she gave birth. And of course, daddy Trashtock had to speak to the press. He just had to. He can't help it, you know. He said " We are very happy with the birth of the twins, this has taken a great deal of pressure from the Prince and the Princess, they have done a great job. I will take the back seat and be a proud grandfather.”
“I will be sending my wife over to be with her, as she has done so with our other children, Sean and Gareth when they had their children, she is her mother and a grandmother to four now and she would want to be by her side.” The Shitstocks in Benoni and papa blabing again
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Post by tops on Dec 11, 2014 19:22:17 GMT -5
Lynette's absence has been as suspicious as her husband knowing the details of the pregnancy before anyone else... Sooo...Lynette wasn't there with her daughter, apparently. An article in the Benoni Times says that she, Mike and Sean were all in Benoni when she gave birth. And of course, daddy Trashtock had to speak to the press. He just had to. He can't help it, you know. He said " We are very happy with the birth of the twins, this has taken a great deal of pressure from the Prince and the Princess, they have done a great job. I will take the back seat and be a proud grandfather.”
“I will be sending my wife over to be with her, as she has done so with our other children, Sean and Gareth when they had their children, she is her mother and a grandmother to four now and she would want to be by her side.” The Shitstocks in Benoni and papa blabing againi'm not buying that they were not there. Why is Lynette always so silent? is papa trashy's manager? something is VERY SUSPECT with all.
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Post by hibou on Dec 11, 2014 21:07:23 GMT -5
According to German press reports the names of the twins go back to: Jacques - Jacques I. of Monaco, husband of Louise-Hippolyte Honoré - name of 5 Princes of Monaco Rainier - Albert's father of course Gabriella - Yolande Martine Gabriella de Polastron, Duchess of Polignac (lived in the 18th century) Thérèse Marie - Marie-Thérèse Grimaldi, Marquise of San Martino (lived in the 18th century) Even if this isn't true I highly doubt that the Trashstocks had any say in the naming of the twins. IMO any palace employee has more power than they have. agentf: don't know what you mean... Their full names and titles are: Prince Jacques Honoré Rainier, Marquis of Baux and Princesse Gabriella Thérèse Marie, Comtesse de Carladès Thanks Taz. I'm now curious to look up how successful Jacque I and the 5 Honore were for Monaco. It looks like with the girl's names that hadn't been used in a while. I don't know who actually came up with the names (Caroline?) but they actually did a pretty good job. I do think Gabriella will end up Princess Gabby. JMO.
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Post by hibou on Dec 11, 2014 21:16:15 GMT -5
well, if Albert dies earlier than the 18th birthday of his son, there will be need of a regent. Caro may decline due to her then age and instate Andrea. And who knows if he takes a liking to the job and refuses to give it back to a young inexperienced Jacques. And we don't know if Jacques will inherit his fathers reluctance and incompetence or if he will put up a fight... I think they'll make sure that PA lives until he's 80. I mean Rainier was overweight and a heavy smoker all his life and he died at the age of 81 (nearly 82). He has had all sorts of medical problems for years and several operations but he lived. PA's only problem so far is his weight. As far as I know he doesn't drink or smoke. With drink I mean more than the usual glass of wine which he more or less has to drink during all the official dinners and stuff. Albert has the Kelly genes. His Mother died young as did his Uncle Jack. Albert does not look well. He looks over-weight and pale. He is usually found flying somewhere, and extensive flying can in some people cause blood clots. All this travel and little exercise plus not eating healthy foods (guessing he doesn't by his weight) has to take it's toll. I don't think having the new additions to the family will change his lifestyle. Then as paca pointed out all the skin cancers he's had removed. It's possible he will live a pretty long life since he doesn't seem to worry about much, and we all know stress is a killer. So we can eliminate that one I guess. Time will tell. JMO
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Post by hibou on Dec 11, 2014 21:26:04 GMT -5
Sooo...Lynette wasn't there with her daughter, apparently. An article in the Benoni Times says that she, Mike and Sean were all in Benoni when she gave birth. And of course, daddy Trashtock had to speak to the press. He just had to. He can't help it, you know. He said " We are very happy with the birth of the twins, this has taken a great deal of pressure from the Prince and the Princess, they have done a great job. I will take the back seat and be a proud grandfather.”
“I will be sending my wife over to be with her, as she has done so with our other children, Sean and Gareth when they had their children, she is her mother and a grandmother to four now and she would want to be by her side.” The Shitstocks in Benoni and papa blabing againWe knew he couldn't keep his mouth shut, but why would they be in SA knowing their daughter was going to give birth, and we know they even had the date and time. May be Albert wanted them out of the country for some reason? I really like how he says he will be sending his wife over. How insulting to her. How about Lynette can't wait to see her new grandchildren. I guess Albert didn't want photos of them visiting the hospital? It's all strange IMO.
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