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Post by paca on Feb 15, 2022 15:25:31 GMT -5
good for QE2 and with 7,5 mill he got off lightly, but given that an important piece of evidence went missing...
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Post by agentf on Feb 16, 2022 3:56:44 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Apr 1, 2022 18:29:25 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jun 20, 2022 9:30:53 GMT -5
I think papers are trying to pit William and his uncle a bit too much, with their wording. www.thedailybeast.com/prince-william-wants-prince-andrew-completely-and-permanently-banned-from-royal-lifeThough no doubt a future king and head of a Church has got to walk the walk talk the talk about family values, and an uncle that taints all that doesn't help with the brand, I myself had to stop watching some YouTubers I used to enjoy, because they were outright apologists. Lady C played on semantics and River was pretty dismissive about the topic of girls. One has a relationship to the strongly rumoured partner of the Barclay madam and Andrew ex, so... But anyways, this won't resolve itself. My question to them is: if it's so acceptable, why haven't they found any takers among British underaged girls? Marry him off to a willing pre-nubile English girl, I dare you to find one. And I doubt the prospect would appeal to him anyway. It's about transgression ultimately. And that goes to privilege which he's clinging to with all his might.
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Post by paca on Jun 20, 2022 15:51:58 GMT -5
would you marry him with Fergie in the house? She still has her claws in him and she has made sure that he will never throw her out. She is a parasite. She tried other hosts, but none would have her permanently. And she knows how to handle him and his vanity. I just think that they are sparing his feelings way too much. Just because flags don't go up for him anymore, they wont for most others either. It is like with his fathers funeral. He made an inappropriate request and so qu2 had to tell everyone to not wear uniforms to spare his feelings. It ought to be her feelings that need sparing. He is such a selfish and useless twat. I do belive though that once CHarles is king, they will not be sparing him further. Especially since there is now another claim coming on. For one case they decided to ignore the victim and pretend to believe him, but if there is another one or more, I don't think that they can hang on to that and still tolerate him at family occasions. I think especially the younger generation will distance themselves and maybe just do the minimum for his daughters sake.
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Post by agentf on Jun 20, 2022 19:07:50 GMT -5
It's like appeasing the Markles a few years ago with the procession. Your view is still more vanilla. I see Ghislaine Maxwell coming back, and everyone festering with their dirty secrets, becoming the sleazy shadows in the post-QE2 era that William will have to contend with and will have the most limitations in fighting off because his father will be the current king. I foresee much frustration for William between dealing with his treacherous brother and uncle. I'm sorry for the gloomy outlook. would you marry him with Fergie in the house? She still has her claws in him and she has made sure that he will never throw her out. She is a parasite. She tried other hosts, but none would have her permanently. And she knows how to handle him and his vanity. I just think that they are sparing his feelings way too much. Just because flags don't go up for him anymore, they wont for most others either. It is like with his fathers funeral. He made an inappropriate request and so qu2 had to tell everyone to not wear uniforms to spare his feelings. It ought to be her feelings that need sparing. He is such a selfish and useless twat. I do belive though that once CHarles is king, they will not be sparing him further. Especially since there is now another claim coming on. For one case they decided to ignore the victim and pretend to believe him, but if there is another one or more, I don't think that they can hang on to that and still tolerate him at family occasions. I think especially the younger generation will distance themselves and maybe just do the minimum for his daughters sake.
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Post by paca on Jun 20, 2022 21:45:32 GMT -5
I think the fact that qe2 refuses to get rid of him is tainting her entire reign. I fear that people will end up judging her through Andrew. Her refusal to see him for what he is and imposing him on the public by continously allowing him to wriggle his way out and everyone taking a stepback for his sake, sheds a bad light on her. It also shows a disregard for his victims. His feelings are more important to her than the suffering of those women. His vanity and supposed hurt feelings are more important to her, than empathy for his victims. That is what she will be measured by. Currently she is seen as an old and frail woman and people have empathy for her. But once she is dead, that will go away and her complete disregard for Andrews victims and how he is being put before everyoneelse even after being sent to retire will forever taint her. It is her most recent action and once the mourning is over, people will see her in a different light. They will take her immediate reaction to Dianas death and her actions with regard to Andrew as revealing her true self. And she will not be able to defend herself. These actions will be used as explanation to why her family is so dysfunctional. There has been healing, but not due to her, but due to Camilla, Kate and Sophie. Hopefully Charles will not be making the same mistake with Harry, once things get awry with him and he is king. People will be less tolerant with him.
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Post by agentf on Jun 21, 2022 9:39:06 GMT -5
You said it. 👍🏼 There has been no amount of forewarning that went heeded, unfortunately. Instead months later, and much British anger, my suggestion here to settle and cooperate was half materialized. 🤷🏻♀️ I think the fact that qe2 refuses to get rid of him is tainting her entire reign. I fear that people will end up judging her through Andrew. Her refusal to see him for what he is and imposing him on the public by continously allowing him to wriggle his way out and everyone taking a stepback for his sake, sheds a bad light on her. It also shows a disregard for his victims. His feelings are more important to her than the suffering of those women. His vanity and supposed hurt feelings are more important to her, than empathy for his victims. That is what she will be measured by. Currently she is seen as an old and frail woman and people have empathy for her. But once she is dead, that will go away and her complete disregard for Andrews victims and how he is being put before everyone else even after being sent to retire will forever taint her. It is her most recent action and once the mourning is over, people will see her in a different light. They will take her immediate reaction to Diana's death and her actions with regard to Andrew as revealing her true self. And she will not be able to defend herself. These actions will be used as explanation to why her family is so dysfunctional. There has been healing, but not due to her, but due to Camilla, Kate and Sophie. Hopefully Charles will not be making the same mistake with Harry, once things get awry with him and he is king. People will be less tolerant with him.
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Post by paca on Jun 21, 2022 17:45:23 GMT -5
Apparently ANdrew Morten said that she is keeping him close because he is loyal, Falkland and the Windsor fire. As if any of that has anything to do with what he did to those girls. What he did has nothing whatsoever to do how he was as a father, grandfather husband etc. With Epstein he was living out a side, that he hid in his other life. He is vain and he is always short of money. He has always lived a life beyond his means. That alone has seen him get into trouble and with a wife (ex wife) similarly wired, he was an easy target for people flattering him and willing to buy access. ANd he still is. He is incapable of change, because that is who he is and the queen refuses to see. Refusing to see his faults is not mothers love. She is mistaking sth there. And probably always has with him. I think as a mother she has completely failed her children. Lucky for them, life has put most of them with partners that allowed them to heal. I think Fergie is in most ways like the queen to Andrew. She indulged him and encouraged him in every stupid thing he ever did. It is a good thing his daughters have found partners that are quite different to their dad. I think Eugenie will greatly benefit from living in Portugal, away from it all. She seems to be the one, having been able to not get to caught up in it. ANd she also seems to be the least bothered by her parents hopes of their daughters playing a more prominent role in the BRF. With Beatrice, I am not so sure. Being married to discarded nobility often leaves an appetite for reinstatement. Just look at the Italian royals craving for those jewels and artefacts. Or the German royals desperate attempts to prove that they were not Nazis so they can get their hands on art, money and properties. Parasites then and now. So hopefully there is not another problem in the making....
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Post by agentf on Jun 21, 2022 18:48:23 GMT -5
paca I think Anne and Edward might disagree with that verdict, even if Anne seemed to be more of a daddy's girl. I don't know how much a parent is liable for an adult child's actions. Fergie would never have the moral high ground to whip him in shape. She was not exactly a super serious person. (She did look lovely in green the other week in Italy btw. Let's give credit where it's due.) Edo doesn't strike me as status-hungry or strapped for cash. He had a business and enjoyed some success. Personally I don't care about Fergie's endorsements of her ex-husband and as grandparents, that's private but I do wince at the foray into children literature market, much like I do about MM. I have a dear friend who's a children's book author. Her character is impeccable and has been since I was 18 years old and have known her. Her books have been translated in numerous languages. I will spare her from tying my dramas to her, by naming her. So in my mind, that's whose books I would buy. Anyway, I hope he moves to Scotland. I think that's not a bad idea.
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Post by agentf on Oct 29, 2022 9:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Apr 26, 2023 7:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 13, 2023 17:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 26, 2023 7:24:07 GMT -5
The old overthrow theory creeping up (no pun): www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12123225/ANGELA-LEVIN-Does-Charles-Andrews-battle-roots-plot-replace-brother-King.htmlWhile Andrew must be taking comfort that Bill Gates is now said to have been blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein as part of a kompromat operation, I think those same elements probably whispered in his ears that he'd be competent for the job. These people play on vanities to wedge themselves into family relations, relationships and other ground where they can cause the most disruption. I personally am revisiting, in light of how I was carved out of my own deals, how manipulation has played a part. And how Epstein at Mar-a-Lago in 1993 may have been a factor in compromising an ex BF. I'm trying to be objective about how, in reality, how unsecretive my ex was in his pursuit of models. He really wasn't opaque. Though I only knew him a few years, he didn't generally display an interest in underage girls. It's just as possible now, that the suicide of his son's young friend could have been an honour killing disguised, and that the violently sexual retaliation 20 years later could have been a display of some guilt. I still believe a certain someone in Abu Dhabi is far from innocent, as the supposed underage affair came at the same time as the Arab man's advances towards me. Knowing now how this man operates (honey traps), and who in Toronto his friends are (Sy), I can't fully conclude. Someone with better knowledge would have to help me out.
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Post by agentf on Jul 16, 2023 1:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Sept 4, 2023 14:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jan 6, 2024 8:05:58 GMT -5
We'll let the Brits hash this one out. Only a mild case of shadenfreude here. And to answer why KC would do nothing? Savile. C'est beau ça. SMH
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Post by agentf on Feb 27, 2024 18:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Mar 7, 2024 7:34:19 GMT -5
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