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Post by emmeline on Jun 24, 2011 11:19:29 GMT -5
well, seeing that she was at St Jean show that she is still very much in the palace. But if you look at them, look at Caroline, then you do get the impression that things are not looking to the best in paradise. The stress is definitely getting to them. With the jumping there are plenty of photographers in town, all with accreditation and they know that they can make extra by getting non jumping pics. They did that during the little games as well. Journalists in town for the jumping, will get additional info keeping their eyes and ears open pre wedding wise. Gets extra money. They still have a week to go to the concert, so if they are starting to show cracks already.... Yep. In the International Jumping thread i put some pics where Charlene is with Albert and Caroline...Caroline doesn't even look at trashy. The atmosphere is tense. There's a moment where trashy seems to be not feeling good ( idk if it's part of her usual acting or if it's real) and Caroline doesn't seem to care. Charlotte does, though.
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Post by suite583 on Jun 24, 2011 11:27:59 GMT -5
A total of 1000 persons who have committed a crime could benefit from amnesty.
So the value of his marriage or his trashy Lene is 1000 criminal souls
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Post by suite583 on Jun 24, 2011 11:29:30 GMT -5
Tour de france will keep also a lot of press in Monaco during next weekend?
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Post by cm7007 on Jun 24, 2011 21:16:00 GMT -5
Question. Did Albert PERSONALLY inherit Roc Agel or did THE SOVEREIGN inherit it? If the Sovereign inherited it, and he has to step aside - then the poor Wittstock's will have to move I guess. Oh gee whiz. I know when he steps down, he'll lose most of his wealth. He'll still be wealthy - but no where near what he is now. I think Rainier was smart enough to hedge his bets. Caroline inherited much more personal wealth than Albert (and Stephanie).
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Post by emmeline on Jun 24, 2011 21:43:31 GMT -5
I wonder why Rainier didn't pass directly the throne to Caroline?
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Post by grandduchess on Jun 24, 2011 22:35:29 GMT -5
I wonder why Rainier didn't pass directly the throne to Caroline? Because he was a male chauvinist who preferred to leave Monaco in the hands of an inept male heir than a capable female... My personal opinion is that he left his personal prejudices stand on the way of the good of Monaco. Just sayin'.
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Post by suite583 on Jun 25, 2011 2:58:19 GMT -5
Question. Did Albert PERSONALLY inherit Roc Agel or did THE SOVEREIGN inherit it? If the Sovereign inherited it, and he has to step aside - then the poor Wittstock's will have to move I guess. Oh gee whiz. I know when he steps down, he'll lose most of his wealth. He'll still be wealthy - but no where near what he is now. I think Rainier was smart enough to hedge his bets. Caroline inherited much more personal wealth than Albert (and Stephanie). Yes, he inherited it from Rainier personally. He has a lot of land and cattle there and the palace will use the nautrition resources from Roc Agel.
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Post by cm7007 on Jun 25, 2011 2:59:24 GMT -5
I wonder why Rainier didn't pass directly the throne to Caroline? Because he was a male chauvinist who preferred to leave Monaco in the hands of an inept male heir than a capable female... My personal opinion is that he left his personal prejudices stand on the way of the good of Monaco. Just sayin'. I agree. But, IMO, I also believe he privately had an agreement with Caroline to take over should there be the need. He knew Albert - set things up so hopefully he would succeed - but also knew what could happen. He admired Caroline and trusted her. I agree Caroline never wanted the job - which also could be why Rainier didn't give it to her. But she does know where her duty lies and she will do what she must do to keep her parents dynasty in tact - IMO.
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Post by suite583 on Jun 25, 2011 3:00:41 GMT -5
I wonder why Rainier didn't pass directly the throne to Caroline? Because that is not written in the law of throne that they remade 2002.
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Post by margarita on Jun 25, 2011 3:35:48 GMT -5
" I agree Caroline never wanted the job." Istn't it the case very often that those who are very capable to do a pretty good job on a high position are too modest or whatever to aim for it. ... while those who are uncapable are desparate to get it - like Charlene.
Its a bit irony of destiny.
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Post by axelle on Jun 25, 2011 7:17:14 GMT -5
The Charlene effect is going to be hilarious! No background - just think how mad those people are that are going to have to work with her!
At least they think they are supporting their jobs! LOL
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Post by emmeline on Jun 25, 2011 13:19:11 GMT -5
" I agree Caroline never wanted the job." Istn't it the case very often that those who are very capable to do a pretty good job on a high position are too modest or whatever to aim for it. ... while those who are uncapable are desparate to get it - like Charlene. Its a bit irony of destiny. True! That's why i keep thinking that Caroline will have the throne, sooner or later. Thanks to Albert and Charlene. I keep thinking too, that, shall be a heir, that heir will never inherit the throne. I mean, Albert dies (before Caroline, of course, let's suppose) and Caroline takes the power...because Charlene, don't matter what the law says, is incapable of even saying one sentence right. Once Caroline is in charge, the kid grows up, see what is it like, and refuses to take the throne. Then, Andrea/Pierre/whoever takes it. That, or a democracy.
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Post by scout on Jul 4, 2011 9:47:34 GMT -5
^Emmeline, If Caroline takes over, she will have one of her sons on the throne in probably 5 years, way before 'the heir' is an adult. She will want to let them get started, but be there if troubles ensue. Rainier should have done this and then he would have seen that Albert only wants to be Prince for the parties and attention. He has zero interest in the work involved. To me, Albert showed that he was not up for the job when he had not married and produced an heir by the time he was 40. That should have been the easiest part of the job, but he has shown his total incompetency by mucking that up. Once he failed to do that, Rainier should have looked for a new heir.
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Post by hibou on Jul 4, 2011 10:43:45 GMT -5
^Emmeline, If Caroline takes over, she will have one of her sons on the throne in probably 5 years, way before 'the heir' is an adult. She will want to let them get started, but be there if troubles ensue. Rainier should have done this and then he would have seen that Albert only wants to be Prince for the parties and attention. He has zero interest in the work involved. To me, Albert showed that he was not up for the job when he had not married and produced an heir by the time he was 40. That should have been the easiest part of the job, but he has shown his total incompetency by mucking that up. Once he failed to do that, Rainier should have looked for a new heir. Rainier should have issued an ultimatum - get married by 40 or renounce your place, but Rainier didn't have the heart to do it any more than he could disown Stephanie. He may have publicly disapproved of her but privately he still sent her money "for the kids sake". It's very hard for a parent to disown a child - very hard. He was only human. JMO
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 4, 2011 13:04:11 GMT -5
I agee, Rainier was a good father. But all three children … another direction.
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Post by donna on Jul 7, 2011 5:27:10 GMT -5
Because he was a male chauvinist who preferred to leave Monaco in the hands of an inept male heir than a capable female... My personal opinion is that he left his personal prejudices stand on the way of the good of Monaco. Just sayin'. I agree. But, IMO, I also believe he privately had an agreement with Caroline to take over should there be the need. He knew Albert - set things up so hopefully he would succeed - but also knew what could happen. He admired Caroline and trusted her. I agree Caroline never wanted the job - which also could be why Rainier didn't give it to her. But she does know where her duty lies and she will do what she must do to keep her parents dynasty in tact - IMO. I hope you are right. But Rainier was increasingly agitated before his death, because he could see what a mistake he had done by leaving Monaco to Fatal. Everytime he looked at his retarded son he became angry.
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Post by suite583 on Jul 11, 2011 14:52:28 GMT -5
Tomorrow will be 6th coronation anniversary of PA.
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Post by countess on Jul 11, 2011 15:26:57 GMT -5
what a perfect day for a coup d'état!!!
i just wish by this time next year they're gone....wishful thinking
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Post by hibou on Jul 11, 2011 16:59:03 GMT -5
what a perfect day for a coup d'état!!! i just wish by this time next year they're gone....wishful thinking Your post reminded me of a J.D. Salinger short story called "A Perfect Day for Bananafish" It's about Seymour Glass who is on his honeymoon and whose wife spends all her time in the hotel room beautifying herself. Seymour goes for a swim where he talks to a little girl on a raft. He tells her it's a perfect day for bananafish. The little girl asks what they are and he tells her they happily stuff themselves so full that they die. He then goes back to the hotel room and kills himself. Well, that's the gist of it. Salinger is a brilliant story-teller. I'm not.
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Post by suite583 on Jul 11, 2011 17:10:25 GMT -5
what a perfect day for a coup d'état!!! i just wish by this time next year they're gone....wishful thinking Your post reminded me of a J.D. Salinger short story called "A Perfect Day for Bananafish" It's about Seymour Glass who is on his honeymoon and whose wife spends all her time in the hotel room beautifying herself. Seymour goes for a swim where he talks to a little girl on a raft. He tells her it's a perfect day for bananafish. The little girl asks what they are and he tells her they happily stuff themselves so full that they die. He then goes back to the hotel room and kills himself. Well, that's the gist of it. Salinger is a brilliant story-teller. I'm not. Hibou, you too are brilliant teller too, for I remember you told this at the RedForum too.Good for us
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