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Post by duchess1 on Mar 11, 2012 21:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by scout on Mar 11, 2012 21:54:40 GMT -5
With this appearance by Charlene in Australia, there can be no question now: Albert has zero respect for his mother, his entire family, his country, himself, and any and all decent people. Clearly, he should have been written out of the line of succession. His choice of a bride is beyond comprehension. She looked like a total bumpkin with little grace or class. And it is an insult that he continues to foist her on the rest of us. When I first heard that Charlene (I won't use titles; these two only tarnish them) was going on this trip alone, I assumed that as the time drew near, someone else in the family who actually knew Princess Grace would go with her and handle the speaking duties. But no, she flew solo. Also, when is Albert going to stop parading his mother all over the globe? I would totally understand and support a place in a museum in Monaco to display these items for tourists to see; but dragging them all of the world has gotten distasteful. I can't watch this train wreck anymore. Albert has taken just a few short years to send Monaco right back to where it was before Prince Rainier III assumed the throne. All that hard work just frittered away. Monaco is a joke now and I pity whoever succeeds Albert as they will inherit a mess.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 5:09:35 GMT -5
totally agree with Albert pimping his mother out. I suspect that thsi was one reason, why Rainier never agreed to the exhibit and probably why Caro did not the original opening, albeit having been seen dining in the same restaurant as Jack Nicholson the previous evening. Jack went to the opening, Caro and husband did not. IMO it is way too recent for this to be shown. There is no historic interest, just voyeuristic, which is why I decided to not go to the exhibit in the GF at the time.
On another note trashys over the top good mood, might be her reaction to the bad press at the Oscars. She is now creating anotherone: she is on her own and apparently happy, whereas whenever with fatty, she sulks. Now that I don't think is a message they want to promote as she has just confirmed that she is thrilled to be as far away as possible from MC and her pimp. In MC she has never been seen like that. So the message she is sending corresponds perfectly with the runaway bride story. Btw, I wonder if she went back to MC after the Oscars, or straight to OZ. My guess is that she went straight to OZ after a few extra days in LA or a stopover in an expensive holiday spot.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 5:51:04 GMT -5
she looks like a big dude in that suit. very tranny-esque. as for the pink/peach glitter dress. i think my grandma wore that in white back in like 1980 for her and my grandfather's 50th wedding anniversary. her big bogan welcome brought a tear to my eye. NOT! anyways, i hope she didn't break that kid's hand backwards when she "high pawed" her. i mean she's got some big ass manos! Here's a new video that has not been posted and it includes footage of Charlene from getting out of the car to touring the exhibit. Creative, look at Charlene in this video, everything that you mentioned above is manifested in this video. I'm starting to believe that Charlene's family and flunkies dominate the sugar boards with the same constant adulation of Charlene's perfect figure, femininity, gracefulness, style and elegance because they are not trying to convince others but themselves.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 6:00:30 GMT -5
Please look up the conditions "Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome"(AIS) and "intersex" and you will find a combination of these physical features as some of the manifestations for women: broad shoulders, narrow body (no waist, no natural breasts, no hips, no ass), long limbs, big hands, big feet and no pubic or underarm hair. Also, another feature for women is a large pubic mound that hides undeveloped testicles. Unfortunately for women who want to have children, this common is normally associated with infertility.
Now my seemingly hypocrisy: Many women who suffer from this genetic condition often have a very difficult time in life because of public ridicule. I personally know one woman who is open about her intersexualty and another woman who I am convinced is one. Yet, I would never in a million years ridicule them! I have no idea if Charlene has this condition, but what bothers me about Charlene is how her flunkies publicly promote her as something that most sane human eyes can clearly see is not - the ideal model of feminine grace, elegance and style!
Extreme example: I do not know if Janet Reno is intersex, but she definitely has many male features. This woman is brilliant and I admired her greatly. But, I would feel differently about her if she and a bunch of her flunkies were publicly promoting her as the ideal model of feminine grace, elegance and style!
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 6:11:04 GMT -5
I was curious about how MC matin would report this visit. They state that trashy won a gold medal in the worldcup in 2002, but when you check the official lists, then her name is not there www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2002/melbourne2002/index.htm I don't think she was even there. In any case she is not in the starting lists of the competition she is supposed to have won the gold medal in. The gold medal was won by an Australian called Elka Graham. Most obviously MC press and PR are realizing how little trashy has achieved in her "carrer" that they are not above lying and making up things. Too bad for them that nowadays all sports events, rankings, times etc are official and public and posted on line. So unless they pay people to alter the records, they will always be found out as liars. And that will eventually get them back. They are probably hoping that people will just copy paste the false info and thus get it into the public, but the people who were there and the sports press knows the truth and has the possibility to out them as liars. And they will, when they find it necessary. Albert is IOC and as such he has to make sure that his wife does not claim false titles if he does not want to lose his reputation. Also athletes will not digest it well if she claims to have won medals she never came near to winning. If they continue her PR on that path, they might end up not having any athletes with a reputation wanting anything to do with MC. At present it seems that only people on the decline in their sport and those hoping to catch some scraps from the gravy train want their name linked to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/la-princesse-charlene-ouvre-lexposition-grace-kelly-en-australie.813982.html
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 6:21:18 GMT -5
she looks like a big dude in that suit. very tranny-esque. as for the pink/peach glitter dress. i think my grandma wore that in white back in like 1980 for her and my grandfather's 50th wedding anniversary. her big bogan welcome brought a tear to my eye. NOT! anyways, i hope she didn't break that kid's hand backwards when she "high pawed" her. i mean she's got some big ass manos! Here's a new video that has not been posted and it includes footage of Charlene from getting out of the car to touring the exhibit. Creative, look at Charlene in this video, everything that you mentioned above is manifested in this video. I'm starting to believe that Charlene's family and flunkies dominate the sugar boards with the same constant adulation of Charlene's perfect figure, femininity, gracefulness, style and elegance because they are not trying to convince others but themselves. the video shows how awful that dress is on her and that the woman has no clue about how to move. Honestly, I believe any guy would walk better on heels than she does. That woman has no body control. She is always all over the place. Her choice of extremely high heels and her size force her to actually have to bend down to talk to people. She would need to chose flat shoes so she doesn't look like a hunchback all the time, or at least less of a hunchback. There used to be silent moviestars who never made it to the screen after sound was introduced. Trashy might just about be ok when she doesn't move, but in motion the woman is a total nightmare.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 6:22:54 GMT -5
There's no excuse, she was the public girlfriend for years, the wife of the sovereign for 9 months and she can't get in and out of a car smoothly or learn to pronounce names in a speech? There's no excuse, she was the public girlfriend for years, the wife of the sovereign for 9 months and she can't get in and out of a car smoothly or learn to pronounce names in a speech? I felt sorry for the people listening to the speech; how awkward! As for the dress, I agree..admit at least to yourself that this isn't working, "Stand aside and let the professional fashion people do what they do best" Charlene has a TEAM of people already working with her - it's not the lack of professional help it is the QUALITY of professional help. Based on what I've seen from the professional flunkies, Charlene only surrounds herself with people who already deem her to be the perfect epitome of style, class, grace, and elegance. Seriously, she clearly has gotten rid of the others. The most appropriately and professionally dressed I have ever seen Charlene was on her trip to Japan. She even wore a suit to her visit to meet the Emperor and the Empress. Paris Match, who accompanied Albert and Charlene on this trip, mentioned that Charlene had a new lady-in-waiting accompanying her on this trip and helping her with her clothes. The same lady was also with Charlene on her February 2011 South African promotional charity tour - in which Charlene went back to her trashy self. I will anyone anything that the lady QUIT soon after the South African trip because Charlene did not take her advice about appropriate clothing attire. I will bet anything!
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 6:29:11 GMT -5
the video shows how awful that dress is on her and that the woman has no clue about how to move. Honestly, I believe any guy would walk better on heels than she does. That woman has no body control. She is always all over the place. Her choice of extremely high heels and her size force her to actually have to bend down to talk to people. She would need to chose flat shoes so she doesn't look like a hunchback all the time, or at least less of a hunchback. There used to be silent moviestars who never made it to the screen after sound was introduced. Trashy might just about be ok when she doesn't move, but in motion the woman is a total nightmare. The designer is quite proud of her creation for Charlene and Charlene seems to be also since she promised to use the designer again. A normal person would have probably change their mind about using the designer again after reading the reviews. But Charlene is not normal! This woman continues to go to the same sugary flunkie places to read her wonderful she is and looks. More information about the dress from an interview with the designer Johanna Johnson - who is actually a New Zealander and prefers to be referred to as a New Zealander than and Australian - did with the New Zealand Herald newspaper.
Johnson, 36, told The Diary dressing her first member of royalty was a "career highlight". The request, she said, "came through a member of the Princess' staff". The European royal had seen the label's look-books and was aware of Johnson's star clientele list.
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But designing for royalty is another matter. Johnson said she had been given a "loose brief" for a dress that could see the princess go from day into evening. "I sent a sketch to her a week ago."
Blenheim-raised Johnson, who lives in Sydney, said the royal request was "very special" on a personal level too because she'd always been an admirer of Princess Grace's style.
"A picture of Princess Grace hangs on my wall."
Princess Charlene and her team have vowed to develop a relationship with Johnson. "They've asked to continue working on events together," said an elated Johnson.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 6:50:02 GMT -5
I was curious about how MC matin would report this visit. They state that trashy won a gold medal in the worldcup in 2002, but when you check the official lists, then her name is not there www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2002/melbourne2002/index.htm I don't think she was even there. In any case she is not in the starting lists of the competition she is supposed to have won the gold medal in. The gold medal was won by an Australian called Elka Graham. Most obviously MC press and PR are realizing how little trashy has achieved in her "carrer" that they are not above lying and making up things. Too bad for them that nowadays all sports events, rankings, times etc are official and public and posted on line. So unless they pay people to alter the records, they will always be found out as liars. And that will eventually get them back. They are probably hoping that people will just copy paste the false info and thus get it into the public, but the people who were there and the sports press knows the truth and has the possibility to out them as liars. And they will, when they find it necessary. Albert is IOC and as such he has to make sure that his wife does not claim false titles if he does not want to lose his reputation. Also athletes will not digest it well if she claims to have won medals she never came near to winning. If they continue her PR on that path, they might end up not having any athletes with a reputation wanting anything to do with MC. At present it seems that only people on the decline in their sport and those hoping to catch some scraps from the gravy train want their name linked to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/la-princesse-charlene-ouvre-lexposition-grace-kelly-en-australie.813982.htmlShe did place gold at the 2002 world Cup finals in Melbourne. You have to look at the finals under day two posted in your link. Here's the direct link. Also, here are the results reported on December 8, 2002 in the The Sunday Times (Perth, Australia) 100m BACKSTROKE: Charlene Wittstock (RSA) 1:00.32 1 Giaan Rooney (Qld) 1:00.37 2 Courtney Shealy (USA) 1:00.38 3.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 6:55:54 GMT -5
goes to show what trashy thinks she is. In her own words an "events" like the football world cup Why don't they say on other outfits? is she an event designer? does she only do outfits for specific occasions? That's what she sounds like. But in any case the designer and trashy both got the event wrong. Neither Caro nor Grace would have worn a cocktail outfit for a gallery opening. Nor do I picture Grace or Caro getting out of a car shouting to the bystanding crowd. How low class is THAT? She is not Jacko greeting his fans, she is a nobody greeting a hired crowd for a photo op. And she looks like she is is extremely high on drugs and she probably had too much to drink considering her slurring. That woman is a any serious spindoctors nightmare. Mel Gibson is tame in comparison.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 6:57:25 GMT -5
I was curious about how MC matin would report this visit. They state that trashy won a gold medal in the worldcup in 2002, but when you check the official lists, then her name is not there www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2002/melbourne2002/index.htm I don't think she was even there. In any case she is not in the starting lists of the competition she is supposed to have won the gold medal in. The gold medal was won by an Australian called Elka Graham. Most obviously MC press and PR are realizing how little trashy has achieved in her "carrer" that they are not above lying and making up things. Too bad for them that nowadays all sports events, rankings, times etc are official and public and posted on line. So unless they pay people to alter the records, they will always be found out as liars. And that will eventually get them back. They are probably hoping that people will just copy paste the false info and thus get it into the public, but the people who were there and the sports press knows the truth and has the possibility to out them as liars. And they will, when they find it necessary. Albert is IOC and as such he has to make sure that his wife does not claim false titles if he does not want to lose his reputation. Also athletes will not digest it well if she claims to have won medals she never came near to winning. If they continue her PR on that path, they might end up not having any athletes with a reputation wanting anything to do with MC. At present it seems that only people on the decline in their sport and those hoping to catch some scraps from the gravy train want their name linked to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/la-princesse-charlene-ouvre-lexposition-grace-kelly-en-australie.813982.htmlShe did place gold at the 2002 world Cup finals in Melbourne. You have to look at the finals under day two posted in your link. Here's the direct link. Also, here are the results reported on December 8, 2002 in the The Sunday Times (Perth, Australia) 100m BACKSTROKE: Charlene Wittstock (RSA) 1:00.32 1 Giaan Rooney (Qld) 1:00.37 2 Courtney Shealy (USA) 1:00.38 3. MC matin says she won gold in 100m crawl. That's where I checked.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 7:03:40 GMT -5
In the only interview that Charlene did in Melbourne with Australian reporter John Elder, Charlene's history with Australia is mentioned. She first came to Australia train when she was 12 years old to train. Also, two of her swimming pals accompanied her on the swimming pool tour, including the South African Craig Jackson who coached her. Here's the version of the interview published in The Sunday Age - I mah have already posted this or a shorter version of it.
A fairytale in Bendigo as Charlene enters with grace
by John Elder March 11, 2012
The royal face of Monaco dazzled at an exhibition dedicated to Grace Kelly.
IT IS not every day a princess comes to Australia, let alone to Bendigo. And while it was supposed to be a secret, 700 people - including children bearing flags and flowers - flocked to the Bendigo Regional Gallery last night to get a glimpse of Her Serene Highness, Princess Charlene of Monaco, on her first Australian visit.
Dressed in floor-length salmon pink Johanna Johnson and sparkling with jewels, Princess Charlene opened an exhibition dedicated to the life and fashions of her husband Prince Albert's late mother, Grace Kelly.
Princess Charlene spoke softly and only for a few minutes, her nerves clearly showing, but the verdict from many of the 700 people who flocked to the Bendigo Regional Art Gallery for a glimpse of Her Serene Highness was that she is ''sweet''.
It was a much more relaxed princess, a former Olympic swimmer for her native South Africa, who caught up with old friends at the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre on Friday.
Flanked by bodyguards and a squad of diplomats, the princess was all smiles as she reunited with friends Sophie Edington and Craig Jackson. When she saw Jackson and Edington, her eyebrows rose and she mouthed a wordless ''I don't believe it'' as she recognised her old pool pals.
The last time Charlene visited the MSAC was in 2002 - as good old Charlene Wittstock - when she won a gold medal for the 100 metres backstroke in the World Cup for South Africa.
''She was sort of reminiscing about her time here, and looking at how the place had changed,'' Jackson said.
A South African Olympian and now a coach at the Vicentre Swimming Club, Jackson told The Sunday Age he had not seen Charlene for six years. He remembered her as ''eight or nine years old'', a young swimmer getting started.
Later he became her coach. ''She was always a very relaxed individual, and easy to get along with. A real team player. She just piled in and got on with it.''
Their reunion on Friday, he said, was a bit nerve-racking. ''To see her in that role was unusual. After seeing her as a swimmer for so many years and then see her as a princess. It was a reversal of roles, and I wasn't sure how to address her. The initial greeting was quite formal and then we sort of relaxed.''
Later in the day, The Sunday Age met Princess Charlene, who corrected Jackson's memory.
She was not eight or nine when they first met. ''I might have looked like it, but I was actually 12,'' she said.
Craig Jackson, she said, was in the generation of swimmers before her. ''South Africa had just come out of isolation, and they were going to their first Olympic Games, in Barcelona,'' she said. ''They were our heroes.'' When the team trained, young Charlene would swim underneath them to study their form.
We were invited to have a 15-minute interview with the princess, with an understanding we would ask no rude or intrusive questions.
Stage-managing the event was Lotfi Maktouf, a Monaco businessman and royal player. The rudest topic of all was Charlene's reported cold feet at marrying Prince Albert.
Mr Maktouf actually raised it, as a way of explaining why local women's magazines had not been invited to cover Charlene's visit. ''I was having lunch with her, at the instruction of the prince, when she was supposed to be fleeing the country and arrested by police as a runaway bride,'' he said.
Grace Kelly: Style Icon features Grace Kelly's Academy Award, her costumes from films such as High Society and a collection of designer gowns by Dior, Yves Saint Laurent and Balenciaga.
Guests at last night's launch included Premier Ted Baillieu and the federal Minister for Regional Australia, Simon Crean.
''Princess Grace was a fairytale princess in her own time,'' Princess Charlene said.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 7:20:25 GMT -5
the author was obviously not there, is blind or wrote the article without seing the pics. She writes about a floor length dress....
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 7:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 7:41:36 GMT -5
the author was obviously not there, is blind or wrote the article without seing the pics. She writes about a floor length dress.... I noticed that also. I was going to say that straight men tend to not notice all the details, but how could you mistaken a long gown for a dress if you were at the event looking at the person - unless the person is just that unmemorable. He may have just did the interview with Charlene in Melbourne and probably didn't bother to follow her to Bendigo to the opening - and wrote the rest from looking at her photos and video of her interview. Honestly, would you waste your time of following this woman around after you interviewed her? Would you really need anymore information to write your story after actually hearing her TALK? Has anyone noticed the reporter's lack of any type of accolades about Charlene or his impression of her. I have NEVER read an interview from a serious reporter whereas the reporter did not form and write their impression of the interviewee. The media is really being polite about Charlene, but yet Charlene and her Charlene's flunkies cannot even read between the lines and always take the media's politeness as some glowing endorsement of her greatness. Since a prerequisite of the interview is not to be rude, the closest this reporter got to forming an impression of Charlene is: Princess Charlene spoke softly and only for a few minutes, her nerves clearly showing, but the verdict from many of the 700 people who flocked to the Bendigo Regional Art Gallery for a glimpse of Her Serene Highness was that she is ''sweet''.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 7:46:18 GMT -5
too funny Maktoufs comment that he was being instructed to have lunch with trashy. SHe still needs to have ordered people to eat with her. Still Express never stated the exact time and date when she staged her escape, so how does he know that fatty had him eat with her. So they did not invite the only press that would have an interest in writing about her. What was the point of her going then? To anger that press so that they would write nasty comments about her? DO they honsetly believe that they can ever get rid of that story by forcing people not to ask about it? And then have a guy linked to a Tunesian dictator clan do her PR? Doesn't that confirm what I have said before, that MC is actually the Tunesia of Europe?
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 7:49:18 GMT -5
Wow, thanks Paca for the info. I started looking up this man also because I felt that it was just so weird that he was with Charlene on this trip in the first place and that the reporter referred to him as "stage-managing" Charlene's tour? WTF? Why this man!!!! ? and why does he think that he was helping the rumors by bringing it up yet AGAIN (as Charlene always does)? Does he not see the seediness oh his statement that he was having lunch with Charlene at Albert's INSTRUCTION? who does that? What's wrong with these people? Can they not see how seedy and trashy they make themselves and Monaco appear?
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 7:50:40 GMT -5
the author was obviously not there, is blind or wrote the article without seing the pics. She writes about a floor length dress.... I noticed that also. I was going to say that straight men tend to not notice all the details, but how could you mistaken a long gown for a dress if you were at the event looking at the person - unless the person is just that unmemorable. He may have just did the interview with Charlene in Melbourne and probably didn't bother to follow her to Bendigo to the opening - and wrote the rest from looking at her photos and video of her interview. Honestly, would you waste your time of following this woman around after you interviewed her? Would you really need anymore information to write your story after actually hearing her TALK? Has anyone noticed the reporter's lack of any type of accolades about Charlene or his impression of her. I have NEVER read an interview from a serious reporter whereas the reporter did not form and write their impression of the interviewee. The media is really being polite about Charlene, but yet Charlene and her Charlene's flunkies cannot even read between the lines and always take the media's politeness as some glowing endorsement of her greatness. Since a prerequisite of the interview is not to be rude, the closest this reporter got to forming an impression of Charlene is: Princess Charlene spoke softly and only for a few minutes, her nerves clearly showing, but the verdict from many of the 700 people who flocked to the Bendigo Regional Art Gallery for a glimpse of Her Serene Highness was that she is ''sweet''.if he would have looked at the pics and video, he still would have known that it wasn't floorlength. So he probably operated on the info about the designer, got the colour and that it was supposed to carry her into the evening. He probably then assumed that it would be a long evening gown. It was definetely not thorough journalist work but it was good of him to give us all the detailed background info to make it into a longer article for want of any info on trashy. I find the background about the dictator PR far more interesting then the entire visit, as this tells the real story of what MC is and who the Grimaldis really are.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 7:57:49 GMT -5
Still Express never stated the exact time and date when she staged her escape, so how does he know that fatty had him eat with her. Your observation is what struck me the most about this man's alibi and I even posted in this post the information from the L'Expres article which clearly shows that no date and time was mentioned. as I mentioned in that post, I wondered if this man's statement was used as evidence in their suit against L'Express. If so, it is rather suspicious to me unless as I mentioned L'express mentioned in other legal proceeding their specific date and time. But still, they wouldn't have given this information BEFORE Albert filed. Perhaps this is why Lacoste was trying to get all the information about L'Express's sources BEFORE they filed suit - so they could line up their alibi witness.
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