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Post by margarita on Nov 15, 2021 7:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Nov 15, 2021 0:01:21 GMT -5
www.google.com/amp/s/worldakkam.com/monaco-signs-tax-treaty-with-uae/477641/amp/Here are more detaied infos about the treaty. Looks like it's been a long way to sign it. Much work for many people involved in that. Good step fwd. and interesting info. But at google the first pages with links are all over Charlene (for Chantell and Sean it took a few seconds to talk to the media and now they all write and reprint this "different places and still not clear where to live" thing". 🙄 With a few links with pics from Dubai but without more info about the treaty. The image of MC is dominated by the Wittstocks. Its such a pitty that the good and stable WORK (!) of so many (qualified) people is so invisible to the world arround. It should be the other way round.
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Post by margarita on Nov 14, 2021 7:21:16 GMT -5
Oh 🙈... Thanks agentf 🙃
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Post by margarita on Nov 14, 2021 7:20:26 GMT -5
Good to see the family showing up together and jumping in 👍
And yes - Happy Birthday 🎂
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Post by margarita on Nov 14, 2021 5:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Nov 14, 2021 4:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Nov 14, 2021 4:49:59 GMT -5
Thanks agentf. Here is some more about it:
They signed a treaty about avoiding doble taxes.
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Post by margarita on Nov 13, 2021 5:39:08 GMT -5
I believe it was karma from previous lives that pulled them together. Having said that, people always have a free choice to clear karma before it bites them in the butt. HE didn't have to marry her, but their karma was too strong to resist it, since both of them were stuck in their ego. I want to believe that she was the witch/scorned woman/bitch who used black magic, saying no member of the Grimaldi family would ever find true love. Now that she got her chance to be married into that family, the spell is lifted. Donna - I'm getting shivers reading that! And isn't it ironic? Albert ended up with the kind of woman he was always afraid of. He stated as reason why he married so late that he never could be sure if a woman wants him or the Prince. All his alarm bells should have rang in the case of Charlene . Her ONLY plan was to become Princess since she moved to MC and never started any attempt to build up a plan B (getting an education, starting to work in any field) enabeling her to live a good life in case he doesn't propose. Showing that she is standing on her own feeds and does not need a Prince but is living with him from free will. WHY didn't he realize? There is a saying: a woman can not escape on the fastest horse from the husband God has chosen for her. It does not say: look for a bride that hangs out long enough not doing anything for years hoping you will propose to her.
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Post by margarita on Nov 13, 2021 2:57:48 GMT -5
I think that things wouldn't have turned so bad and the pressure was much lower if Albert/ the Palace would not have had the "brilliant" idea in 2010/ 2011 to advertise her as the NEW FLAG SHIP OF MONACO, the symbol of fresh modern Monaco and linking her and the marriage to the image of the country.
I remember that under Christine Stahl there was a whole propaganda machine working for the new flagship Charlene as symbol of the new Monaco.
And now that it came out the flagship is not able to swimm they wonder about the media attention?
Linking these 2 things was a major mistakeIMO.
If Albert was just in love with her - why not simply marry her and putt the media attention on what he does and what people of Monaco do to finally realize his vision of Monaco.
I still wonder whether "Charlene-the-flag ship" was his very own idea back then or whether he was simply not smart or strong enough to see this through and to not approve it. But it was so clear and predictable - or at least dangerous. Who was the author of that spin? Why??
Albert would have less media attention on his marriage now (and I understand that even public figures want to have some private life) if he wouldn't have put her in the front line back then as new face of nothing less but his whole country Monaco 🙄. That was how she was labeled.
JMO...
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Post by margarita on Nov 13, 2021 1:56:55 GMT -5
You hit the nail on the head. Talking to the media and then feigning to want your own space is contradictory. If she truly wanted privacy, she would achieve it easily by not fuelling rumours by her erratic behaviour. Didn't they redo the palace's interior design? Surely you could customize to have a scrambler even, if you don't want to be overheard. You can outwit people too. She gets her back up for everything. Meanwhile, this was her end game for yeeeears. Now that she's got it, spare us the nonsense. She should kiss the ground that such an underwhelming person with nary a merit landed on a platform she doesn't begin to know how to utilize. It's wasted on her. She's just antisocial." ---------------------------------------- Agentf ... something like that I was trying to say just more diplomatic 🤭🙃. She had nothing to offer to Monaco when she moved there. No profession, no education. Nothing on her own. Her swimming career was ended. Nothing that qualified her for the "job". Which gives so many chances to really move things and contribute to something bigger. Or at least be happy to have time and money to not get up at 5 or 6, drive to work every day to come back in the evening and do the householdwork instead of playing with your children during weekens. Millions of people live like that. What is interesting about the media-thing: During the years she was hanging arround in MC she enjoyed the media attention pretty much and liked it to be portrayed as the next Princess of Monaco. We were all wondering how the media could praise soneone with so little substance. Someone on this forum wrote about 10 years ago that the media build her up - to then write her down in a couple of years. That's where we are now. Paca - I know far more crazy people. One of them builded a modern factory in the middle of nowhere in a economical not so stable country. People declared him to be insane and papers wrote about him - not in a positive way but linking him to all sorts of scandals. But he just laughed and worked on. Who believes the papers more than trusts me is not important for me he told me. I apriciate people like that and always supported him. Now he made it!! Even the Predident of his country came to open the newest production line, praising that project and he could sign a contract to sell his products now! The difference with Charlene is - in his case there is substance!! He worked so hard for 10 years. He builded something. He is independent of the media. While Charlene needed them to reassure Albert and herself that she is qualified for the job. Without any substance. And now that they write the king (Princess) is naked she is the poor victim? In case she would have really worked during the past about 10 years and people would have started to like her they would surely understand now if the Palace would make it official that she is ill and asked for understanding to be patient with her and give her a rest. But people are waiting for 10 years now that she starts to live the role she so much wanted. Or at least stopps crying that she got it. I'm sorry for the kids and for Monaco.
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Post by margarita on Nov 12, 2021 14:12:08 GMT -5
Paca - I know some families who live in different towns or even countries for economical reasons. But I don't know any family living apart who is not dreaming about putting an end to it. Maybe we have just different experiences in that field. It's ok to have different opinions. Anyhow the media are looking for every sign now to make a story out of it. They are public figures and should be careful with the signs they give. Like not wearing the marriage ring. It would be so simple to just wear it. And of course people wonder why Albert was not visiting her more often in S.A. I don't know the Palace in Monaco but I happened to be in several residencies of Ambassadors - they all have a private sector. (Btw - many diplomates live in a fish bowl as well. They can't talk freely at home and can't even have good s...x at night without being sure that no one listens. There are eyes and ears everywhere. And do they make a drama out of it? They are aware but don't get very crazy. Some suffer somehow but know how to handle it. Some make jokes about it. Btw - I know this kind of fish bowl from own experience. It is special but there are worse destinies I guess. And I lived in villages and tiny towns where people watch every step you take. So - I know how it is to be talked about. It is not always pleasent but people are like they are. What I'm trying to say is that life is no pony stable - Royals or members of the Monaco Princely family are not the only ones being watched and talked about. In a situation like that if you can't run away and don't want to shoot yourself or anyone else all you can do is live with it and be careful with the signs you send. If not giving too many reasons for people to draw certain conclusions they simply won't draw them. Is anyone questioning the marriage of Kate or Maxima? For some reason not.) That's why I still doubt that it would be not possible to declare some rooms of the Palace private and even lock them with a key. If they want to have more privacy it would be helpful to stop the Wittstocks from talking to the media. It is not very helpful to tell that they will live i different places in Monaco. If nobody has noticed before - now they did. Bravo. Several newspapers are referring to that now and even noticed too that Charlene is not following the Palace on her instagram account (what you noticed long before). www.google.com/amp/s/kurier.at/amp/stars/schwaegerin-deutet-an-charlene-und-albert-leben-auch-in-monaco-getrennt/401803411So media are putting a puzzle together based on the infos they are provided with. Albert and Charlene are public figures so the only thing that would help is more professional PR. Starting with stopping Charlenes spokes persons from talking. And being aware of the signs they send.
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Post by margarita on Nov 12, 2021 1:14:24 GMT -5
IMO a normal family with 2 smal children lives under one roof. The appartment above the chocolate shop is said to be smal (2 bedrooms appartment - like dailymail states) and I just don't see the children there. And the poor dog. Anyway: the Wittstocks are backpedaling - seems someone from the Palace told them they made a mistake: www.news24.com/amp/you/royals/news/the-truth-about-princess-charlene-living-alone-above-a-chocolate-shop-in-monaco-20211111Not knowing were to live after 10 month apart from husband and 2 smal kids?? Was her return not prepared and planed? At least for the childrens sake there should be some clearness and stability. IF they are still together and want to give their marriage a chance. To me it sounds like that the main task was to get her over back to MC. And nobody believed her to enter that private jet to Monaco until she arrived in Nice.Hence nobody really planned and they should "find their feets" now. Thanks Wittstocks for telling the truth! www.google.com/amp/s/www.parisbeacon.com/charlene-of-monaco-she-might-not-live-at-the-palace/amp/Chantell said she will live "wherever she (!) feels comfortable". So the children, dog and Albert should switch their home permanently and move to where madame feels comfortable at the very moment ("but she will stay with her husband and children"). But they are a happy family - everything ok. Just rumors... A not very intelligent composed lie. Sounds like a family being co-dependend of a mentally not stable wife and mother. JMO...
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Post by margarita on Nov 11, 2021 7:23:01 GMT -5
Ohhh yes ... poor dog 🐕😒. Wonder if he was a present (not her decision to obtain a young big dog) or she bought it (I read somewere that she bought it). Hope they put him to Roc Agel or somewere outside MC with a trainer. But then again the twins will be sad and disappointed (don'tcthey live in the Palace?). It's like showing them a pice of chocolate and then take it away - worse: because dogs and children are living creatures and these little souls are hurt again and again.
And yes - agree with you paca and agentf: They should not wonder that their marriage is questioned again and again.
I understand that she needs to rest abd wants to have some privacy. But I doubt that it was not possible to declare 2 or 3 rooms of the Palace as private zone or move to Roc Agel as a family with more privacy for everyone.
It's not that there were no solutions.
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Post by margarita on Nov 11, 2021 6:03:05 GMT -5
ok ... thanks Paca 👍
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Post by margarita on Nov 11, 2021 6:01:50 GMT -5
www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10190221/amp/Princess-Charlene-NOT-palace.html1) blabbing Wittstocks again 🥳🥴 2) she could show up with the Zulu king and do her rhino thing but nobody knows when she will be able to attend events in Monaco again??? 3) so here we have it black on white: they will live seperately. She will not live 100% with her family. Well - if she would have chosen Roc Agel to live there with kids and dog and Albert, away from the Monaco circus - it would be understandable. But WHY in a little appartment 300 m away from the Palace but still in Monaco???
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Post by margarita on Nov 10, 2021 10:35:10 GMT -5
LOL I'm still in love with my husband and would go to the airport to meet him but he has changed his job :-) Btw - he was flying frequently too but I went to the airport only when he was away for about 3 weeks nonstop. And that's what I would still do. So after Charlene was in S.A. for about 9 month I would have expected him to go to Nice.
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Post by margarita on Nov 10, 2021 8:52:33 GMT -5
Why should Albert have met her in Nice? It would have added another helicopter flight. They also could have asked, why didn't he pick her up in Durban? Ridiculous. TBH I don't even see the point of them going to the heliport. Steph lives there. There was staff with her. Everything was organized for her. It is not like she was hitch hiking home. I am more critical of her cultural appropriation at the airport in Durban than not mentioning Albert. Interesting that EVERYONE gets criticised for it except her. Why is that? She puts her coloured stepson with staff and is not called out as being racist? Is she allowed to be racist and blackfacing and not be called out on it because she hails from SA which not long ago still had apartheid? How many black doctors where on he medical team? A bet it was none. Those are questions that need to be asked and she has to be made aware of her racism. Maybe her difficulties with accepting Alex is not that he was born out of wedlock, but because of his colour? It is one thing to use black children as props for your photo ops, but quite another to welcome one in your home, which is rightfully his too. And who doesn't need your permission to be there, because it is his birthright, but not yours. I think a woman who follows the wife of the most racist president ever should answer that. The Obamas are not on her follow list. Well, they are black, so... It's not me asking that but BUNTE.(although I would have met my husband in Nice if it was just a helicopter ride away - 1) to show that I'm happy he is back 2) if I knew that media are just waiting for any sign and hint and I would like to demonstrate that everything is allright. And as we see media did pick it uo immediately. On the other hand he did send a sign by saying now that Nicole made him angry. I don't get them 🙄. Guess that Charlene put some pressure on Albert to 'protect' her from Nicole. And he does not like pressure so this was the path of less resistance. But you can't force someone to take a heli to meet you about 30 minutes earlier at the airport. Because thats love. I used to go by car to the airport to meet my husband when he was on a business trip far away. It took about 1 hour - one way. The Zulu king did acompany her to the airport in S A - and that is a sign too. Like wearing that Zulu thing leaving Africa. (Agree with paca - she will never get it.) The zulu king is black but he is a king and her plan B. That's all.
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Post by margarita on Nov 10, 2021 4:25:57 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Nov 10, 2021 4:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Nov 9, 2021 18:48:12 GMT -5
No normal person would respond to that kind of letter. What did that person think? Or how would you respond if a perfect stranger wrote to you and suggested that although they have no use for you, they really do like your house and have some really great ideas to redecorate. Lets meet. I am surprised she received any response. And probably just to prevent her from showing up at the palace and becoming a security issue. I think Albert himself would find a strong woman challenging. I am sure he loves Caro, but I think he is intimidated by her. I think someone like Mathilde would have been more suited to him. But not easy to find and he was too old to wait around. He neede heirs. What he did with CW wasn't the first time. Long before that I remember reading about a woman that claimed to have been locked away in an appartement in MC, basically waiting around for Albert. It was IMO sensationalized, but pretty much corresponds to what CW revealed about her time in MC before the proposal. So I suppose that while his dad was still around that was how he had relationships with women. None of them made the cut and had Rainier been around, neither would CW. I think only timing made the difference. And I think CW knows that. That's why she is so needy. Anyways just googled Tasha and apparently she met Charles too and wrote a book. So I think she really wanted to be a princess. Of any country. www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/koeniglicher-don-juan-prinz-charles-und-das-kurvige-model-a-739130.htmlI can remember the story with the girl who claimed to have been locked up. Very strange. Agree that some kind of Mathilde would have been good. As for the girl writing to Albert from what I know she didn't say 'I'm not interested in you' but the opposite - expressed interest in his original ideas and plans about MC but just made clear she is no gold digger. Sorry it's late - hard to find the right words. Guess he didn't notice how years were running and was focused on the wrong kind of woman too long. But isn't it ironic? He said it was hard for him to figure out if a girl was in love with him or just wanted to become a Princess. And then he ended up with Charlene 🙄. What would she have done if he wouldn't have proposed? Without education and other career? She lost all the waiting years to build up something for her own just in case he wouldn't propose. Or just to have more self esteem if he does. After all it is important for a healty partnership to feel self secure.
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