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Post by suite583 on Jul 14, 2011 11:42:41 GMT -5
Any idea when the red cross ball in on this year? Or will they drop it? Thanks to Antoinette (rip) she missed the Rose Ball. I don't think she will be prepared to miss another big Ball, this time the Red Cross E, agree with you.
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Post by emmeline on Jul 14, 2011 11:50:35 GMT -5
Red Cross Ball in on 31st of July, I thought it was always in August. Let's see how they will emerge on the 20th first. If and when the DNA results come, if positive, I think the only way they could turn this around would be for PA to issue ( from the palace balcony ) a public apology to the people of Monaco, his guests, the world who watched the wedding and his bride for insulting everyone and f...ing up so badly and beg to be forgiven and then take the snip. If the test/s come out negative, no one is going to believe it after all that went on. Looking back, when he said in his speech to Charlene thank you for put up my inconsistencies, he either meant it as his lies to her or his infidelities, just using a different word... Yep, so they are screwed in all the ways. If the tests turn out to be positive, everybody will be like "oh, he was unfaithful to C all this time!" And, if they turn out to be negative, people will be like "oh, he is lying, he paid the doctor to falsify the tests! He want us to believe he is innoncent!" I don't see how a possible child of A&C could do a miracle in their damaged image.
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Post by axelle on Jul 14, 2011 12:38:06 GMT -5
Do we know for sure they will surface in Moronaco next Weds the 20th? The palace announced they will be back on that day, that was my point. Thanks - I missed that.
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Post by margarita on Jul 14, 2011 13:33:30 GMT -5
Red Cross Ball in on 31st of July, I thought it was always in August. Let's see how they will emerge on the 20th first. If and when the DNA results come, if positive, I think the only way they could turn this around would be for PA to issue ( from the palace balcony ) a public apology to the people of Monaco, his guests, the world who watched the wedding and his bride for insulting everyone and f...ing up so badly and beg to be forgiven and then take the snip. If the test/s come out negative, no one is going to believe it after all that went on. Looking back, when he said in his speech to Charlene thank you for put up my inconsistencies, he either meant it as his lies to her or his infidelities, just using a different word... Yep, so they are screwed in all the ways. If the tests turn out to be positive, everybody will be like "oh, he was unfaithful to C all this time!" And, if they turn out to be negative, people will be like "oh, he is lying, he paid the doctor to falsify the tests! He want us to believe he is innoncent!" I don't see how a possible child of A&C could do a miracle in their damaged image. emmeline - I'm totally with you! No child ! only C getting back to S.A. or anywhere ... was a solution. A S.A. newspaper already spoke of Charlene's depressions and unability to cope with the role - that would be an excuse to leave the field: her big longing for freedom and strong character. Albert should use the positive test results to say Charlene: ok - you have to go - now. It is for your best: reputation and money. It is YOUR face saving exit. I kick you in the a. to use it.
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Post by suite583 on Jul 14, 2011 13:52:53 GMT -5
Wait for to middle of next week when they are back and a new media circus will start.
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 14, 2011 15:04:25 GMT -5
Not to be mean but - IF she can even conceive - and that's an IF- and IF she can actually carry the child full term -lots of women can't - there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't. I'm certainly NOT hoping for something lie this to happen to a child - ever - BUT - haven't these dopes even considered the possibility? How sad would that be? Albert isn't a kid any more - and recent studies show older men HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF PRODUCING DEFECTED SPERM - just because the kidds that are already here are fine and healthy - doesn't mean any new ones will be - as a matter of fact - the more kidds he has the greater the odds are one will be born with a problem. Then let's taking into account Charlene's DNA. God only knows what that is - and what if anything any steroid taking and snow sniffing - and cigarette smoking etc. has done to her. Not to mention stress! Plastic surgeries and medication for the above surgeries! Plus, she's in her 30's. She's not 22 any more. It's all very dicie if you ask me. How can ANY PERSON with ANY conscience even consider having a child under these circumstances!
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Post by suite583 on Jul 14, 2011 15:23:28 GMT -5
there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't But there is possibility that they has frozen his sperm when he was much younger.
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Post by margarita on Jul 14, 2011 15:25:40 GMT -5
Not to be mean but - IF she can even conceive - and that's an IF- and IF she can actually carry the child full term -lots of women can't - there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't. I'm certainly NOT hoping for something lie this to happen to a child - ever - BUT - haven't these dopes even considered the possibility? How sad would that be? Albert isn't a kid any more - and recent studies show older men HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF PRODUCING DEFECTED SPERM - just because the kidds that are already here are fine and healthy - doesn't mean any new ones will be - as a matter of fact - the more kidds he has the greater the odds are one will be born with a problem. Then let's taking into account Charlene's DNA. God only knows what that is - and what if anything any steroid taking and snow sniffing - and cigarette smoking etc. has done to her. Not to mention stress! Plastic surgeries and medication for the above surgeries! Plus, she's in her 30's. She's not 22 any more. It's all very dicie if you ask me. How can ANY PERSON with ANY conscience even consider having a child under these circumstances! CM7007: 1000% agree. It's rediculous to even think under the given circumstances about children. PLUS a russian healer I know said that children are born as strong as the love of the parents is - it depends on the energy and chemistry between mother and father how the child will be - not only genes but LOVE, RESPECT. It would be sooooo egoistic if they would even try.
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Post by hibou on Jul 14, 2011 15:33:13 GMT -5
Not to be mean but - IF she can even conceive - and that's an IF- and IF she can actually carry the child full term -lots of women can't - there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't. I'm certainly NOT hoping for something lie this to happen to a child - ever - BUT - haven't these dopes even considered the possibility? How sad would that be? Albert isn't a kid any more - and recent studies show older men HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF PRODUCING DEFECTED SPERM - just because the kidds that are already here are fine and healthy - doesn't mean any new ones will be - as a matter of fact - the more kidds he has the greater the odds are one will be born with a problem. Then let's taking into account Charlene's DNA. God only knows what that is - and what if anything any steroid taking and snow sniffing - and cigarette smoking etc. has done to her. Not to mention stress! Plastic surgeries and medication for the above surgeries! Plus, she's in her 30's. She's not 22 any more. It's all very dicie if you ask me. How can ANY PERSON with ANY conscience even consider having a child under these circumstances! Points well taken. Charlene's biggest problem is the way she is build. No hips, which means she's very narrow through the pelvis which makes it harder to carry a baby. I would guess she could end up in bed for several months with an early delivery by c-section. If she has not been taking care of herself by eating all the right foods including the right vitamins, not smoking (or inhaling anything for that matter) and not drinking (which they now suggest women stop before they get pregnant) then she may have a harder time conceiving. Add in her athletic past and it could snowball. At 33 she is still young (under age 35) so it's possible she could conceive. As for Albert, he's in awful condition, and I actually wonder what drugs he is taking at his age to have such an active sex life. I find that more disconcerting to tell you the truth. I still can't get the image of him wearing the viagra t-shirt out of my head, and that was several years ago. JMO
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 14, 2011 15:35:05 GMT -5
there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't But there is possibility that they has frozen his sperm when he was much younger. Sorry, LOL Really you believe this? Albert the womanizer, the man who like’s have sex / have baby’s al over the world<; freezes his sperm?
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 14, 2011 15:37:20 GMT -5
Hibou, I think the viagra is not for away ...
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Post by suite583 on Jul 14, 2011 15:48:42 GMT -5
there is NO GUARANTEE the child will be born and remain healthy. Lots of children aren't But there is possibility that they has frozen his sperm when he was much younger. Sorry, LOL Really you believe this? Albert the womanizer, the man who like’s have sex / have baby’s al over the world<; freezes his sperm? It is possible thru the last biomedicial technology. PA has all the money to pay for a laboratory.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 14, 2011 15:58:19 GMT -5
He is far too macho (he thinks) to do this. There is nothing yet in MC or FR in the fridge.
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Post by sandsla on Jul 14, 2011 16:13:49 GMT -5
Hmmm...I suppose if Michael Middleton would go to the dailymail and tell them that his daughters marriage to William was not a sham, the mail would title: Mike Middleton had obviously a visit from his brother in law who put him under the influence of some major drugs as he felt compelled to tell us that his daughter was not pretending to be in love with William....and then they would all have a good laugh.... don't these idiots get that when you have to tell people that you did not get married for the money and fame that that is actually the true reasons for why you got married? too bad when you let a moronic lawyer, an idiot dad and an incompetent PR woman do your talking....it is bound to go wrong...or better: they are such incompetent liars that their lies reveal the truth for everyone to see Exactly! I want to say I just can't believe this , but then it really is exactly what I predicted in most of my posts through the years! I guess I am slightly surprised that it hit so fast ;D, and yet when it did even before the wedding, they still decide to go through with this "sham." Why these idiot people consistently continue to discount the intelligence of most people is beyond me! How many posts have I written about them trying to build Charlene up with denials to counter her true self in her remarks and actions, and that she has already put out there for everyone to read and see--why do they want to continue to point to it and bring even more attention to it....why they feel they need to comment or go out of their way to deny it, when it only makes her look even more of a liar and phony than people already think!. If it wasn't all true they wouldn't be so worried about it! They would ignore it! When I read Daddy Wittstocks phrase that "...the wedding and relationship wasn't a "sham.." Paca your comment above reflects exactly what I thought when I read that! Actions speak louder than words and when he let his daughter live off Albert all these years, and flaunted it, and in his plans he made public of the entire family being supported by Albert now and moving to Monaco as they all waste no time trying to escape their country while they put on some big show about their closeness to their SA roots--it is a comedy! . Seriously, I don't think Daddy Whittstck should waste his time denying what this :arrangement is all about , because this "unusual marriage" is not acceptable in 2011 to anyone anywhere outside a third world country....and even in most of them! I can't believe Albert and Stahl thought they could get away with this! These people have to be the most ignorant and arrogant people on earth! Plus there are plenty of legitimate heirs to the throne already--Rainier made sure of that! Albert and the palace had no need to resort to all the attempts or this ridiculous deception, and no wonder Albert and Stahl see nothing wrong with anything about Charlene's character, when they are just as happy to try to deceive so many people themselves and use them as their own pawns in this fraud of a relationship and now marriage, and of course what is worse.....it is with a woman that is not at all liked b y anyone....a woman that is very offensive who already had a monumental inflated sense of self importance, and with the very least reason to! Albert shows no respect or loyalty to his own people when he decided to marry (for no reason at all) some abstract woman that no one likes or COULD EVER "RESPECT", not even after six years....how could they?!! [/b] [/u] In spite of knowing how bad she is even disliked in Monaco by his own people the country he is meant to be the Monarch of....after he has forced her on them for six years, not to mention other dignitaries, royals and high profile people that had to endure her, and where they have found her just as offensive or turned off by, he marries her anyway!!!! forcing her on the Monagasque people and his family even further! And now he has the nerve to say his people are being unfair to her , that they owe it to him and Charlene to like her and respect her! He is out of his mind! Even Louis XV was not that stupid and arrogant! Albert better shut up quick if he doesn't want to contemplate him and his wife's own heads on the the ends of a couple of pikes--I am sure his people are pissed enough at him as it is, without insulting them further with such arrogant demands that they owe something to his repulsive wife! The idea that Albert and Charlene has everyone in there hand and pocket because of his money or position is just the kind of thing people hate! Again ladies on the sugardaddy boards....I hope you are enjoying the spin! I have a feeling his Colonel planned to leave if or when Charlene ever became Princess--looking at the videos through the years you could always tell there was no love lost there between them and for good reason! There is a point where it is impossible to do your job, and I think that moment was a long time coming for him. I still do not understand what Albert thinks Charlene offers him (not one thing) that he is so willing to lose those loyal to him and his family all these years and to risk absolutely everything for! I really don't get it--I well never understand it?
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 14, 2011 16:36:40 GMT -5
I still do not understand what Albert thinks Charlene offers him (not one thing) that he is so willing to lose those loyal to him and his family all these years and to risk absolutely everything for! I really don't get it—
Me neither. Great post, Sandsla!
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Post by donna on Jul 14, 2011 17:30:45 GMT -5
A poster on Eringer is reporting that Albert and Charlene are in Corsica not SA. Saint Devote came from Corsica. Fatal sure is fu**ing with St. Devote!
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 14, 2011 17:53:22 GMT -5
Very true Sandsla! There has to be something really, deeply pathologically wrong with Albert - something we haven't a clue about that is wrong with him. He must have such a deep, deep hatred for his father - and maybe even his mother - that he can't help himself. He's hell bent on totally destroying and making a mockery of everything his parents build up, accomplished and stood for. (Even if everything they did do turns out to be a fraud - the public at large doesn't know it.) It's really sick, self destructive behavior!
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Post by hibou on Jul 14, 2011 18:11:12 GMT -5
Sorry, LOL Really you believe this? Albert the womanizer, the man who like’s have sex / have baby’s al over the world<; freezes his sperm? It is possible thru the last biomedicial technology. PA has all the money to pay for a laboratory. Yes it's called Cloning. He can pay to have a "mini-me" created. Like Dolly the sheep, but will he also pay to have a mini- Charlene?
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Post by mrplowfan on Jul 14, 2011 18:13:30 GMT -5
Didn't Dolly the sheep die of old age fairly early? Your DNA does age so the kid would be born in it's 50s but still a baby. It wouldn't be pretty. Al's obviously fertile so he'll find a way.
Sandsla, that caught me too! Just because she's SA they should pay homage to her like she's some God even if she's obviously not deserving of their respect? Respect is earned. People don't want to support the bad guy. Marrying for money is still considered a form of prostitution and is not exactly respectable unless you are a paid PR person or a sugar desperate for attention from your idol.
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Post by sandsla on Jul 14, 2011 18:52:55 GMT -5
(Thanks ladies ...I am always so sure that I must be boring everyone to death with my long redundant posts especially after people have moved on from a topic! I just can't help myself sometimes! I am just catching up a little again. ;D? ;D ;D ;D OMG I am doubled over with laughter! What fun they must be having ; when they could have just read and took heed of just a few of our posts here through the years where they could have saved themselves a whole lot of grief and money! Gee, I'm really glad to see how it has all paid off for Albert and the Palace who selectively chose to listen to the gold-diggers on TRF who oddly only seemed to ever have "Charlene's own interest in mind"? Like any self-serving gold-digger would, and who would think it is perfectly acceptable to marry someone for money and to consistently lie about yourself to people and to the press, and to be so grandiose about yourself . Albert and the Palace wanted to listen to these people, along with their own press that they were putting out themselves, but most importantly to the very people intimately involved who always had something personally to gain, even at a great cost to Albert or Monaco?
Let me repeat that quote from Daddy Wittstock, "But Princess Charlene's father tried to assure the press that the couple's love is true, saying that "marrying his daughter" "to a prince" "is like "winning the World Cup."" Funny, I don't see anything that resembles love in this statement and I don't think the guy that wrote that article did either , which is why he included Daddy Wittstocks qualifying sentence that highlights what is really true ? I really can't wait for the issue of all the money payments to surface....all the payments that were made to Charlene from the very beginning of their relationship! Maybe when that happens people will be a little less sympathetic to Charlene's poor plight! Never mind that she married a man 20 years older than her, that she has nothing in common with, and who was always only too eager to live in a country where she had no problem shacking up with the Prince for six years and then her relentless goal to become princess of Monaco, the very country she has been living in for six years where she knows she is very much despised, because she never could bother to make any effort in trying to endear herself to anyone that dosn'nt serve a purpose to her in her own mind! "...that's to be expected..." Is it Charlene? I guess Charlene is not use to...or has a care about being liked by anyone, because in her warped egotistical mind "they are jealous of me" ;D Well I hope she got all that she was expecting everywhere as "...the most photographed women in the world..." Again, Thank you Myadia--I am so glad you posted that article about the money she was being paid and all the perks to her deal that was published and never disputed. I didn't have it anywhere and I thought it might have been gone forever, being an article that could cause everyone involved a lot of trouble! I always tried to keep it from disappearing by mentioning it as much as I can, hoping that someone might ask her about it some day or at least allude to it? I mean these people have tried to rebut and deny every stupid thing Charlene has done and said, sometimes even trying to sue, even for being called Albert's girlfriend I hope someone ask her about that (Business deal) some day--the fact that they didn't try to sue for this article that couldn't be more damaging to both of them and which basically amounts to Charlene being portrayed as a highly paid prostitute! ;D I think the only reason they couldn't or didn't try to sue or complain much about it was because it was true and factual, and because Charlene was probably the source herself or someone intimately close to her, because only Charlene and her family are so incredibly stupid to think that this would actually be a feather in Charlene's cap and/or dumb enough to brag about this imagining people should be jealous of a woman who is willing to take money to pretend to be a mans girlfriend and sleep with him- -hookers have a name for that "the girlfriend experience" . I also have news for the "gold-digger" ( not Victorian) mentality of the sugar-baby loonnies.....because if it was the Victorian times, when it may have been more common to marry by arranged marriage as some kind of family deal....Charlene would not even qualify to be a low level mistress , because even they had to be...not only part of the aristocracy, but on the same level of aristocracy as their lovers! I doubt Charlene would have even qualified to be a royal maid back then if these idiot gold--diggers seriously think or want to try to hark back to a time hundreds of years ago where women were chattel....evidently some women think it still plays well in current times! Even the average Gold-digger is at least smart enough to pretend it is a marriage of love, since it doesn't take too much for some idiot man to want to believe it. As I predicting Charlene herself is still smelling like a rose (for the time being anyway) and getting all the sympathy just like I said she would, while a very stupid Albert and very stupid Palace are left holding the bag for the whole mess....just like I said they would....so many painfully redundant times before...and once again! Charlene again seems to have no responsibility here....no not "poor Charlene" ....because I guess every girl is expected to behave like a prostitute and a narcissistic sociopath in life! . I don't know if she is really still getting sympathy with her father and his remarks who is pretty much admitting he and his daughter are big time gold-diggers and that he is perfectly happy to help pimp his grown adult daughter out to "a prince" after all, marrying a prince is like hitting the jackpot for him? ;D Does anyone think the reporter was being just a little ironic with the "poor Charlene" bit. Again, Daddy Wittstocks TRUE statement: "But Princess Charlene's father "tried" to assure the press that the couple's love is true, saying that marrying his daughter to a prince is like "winning the World Cup.""[/u] I think this statement wasn't very convincing! ;D Considering he already has his and the entire families bags packed! ;D
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