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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 8:09:08 GMT -5
Wow, thanks Paca for the info. I started looking up this man also because I felt that it was just so weird that he was with Charlene on this trip in the first place and that the reporter referred to him as "stage-managing" Charlene's tour? WTF? Why this man!!!! ? and why does he think that he was helping the rumors by bringing it up yet AGAIN (as Charlene always does)? Does he not see the seediness oh his statement that he was having lunch with Charlene at Albert's INSTRUCTION? who does that? What's wrong with these people? Can they not see how seedy and trashy they make themselves and Monaco appear? actually the official involvement of Maktouf is with the port palace hotel. so he might have been with her to promote tourism. they can't use the runaway bride bad publicity. Maybe the hotel people think now that everyone has done bad publicity for them, they should do their own. But putting it into the hands of a guy linked to a dictator only generates more bad PR. I can understand that no spindoctor with a reputation would take on this shipwreck. But using a guy who was in business with a dictator clan, probably helping them to hide their money does not help. there was press about Tunesian money being stashed in MC. They later officially denied this. But I would never ever trust an official MC dementi. I don't know who is behind the ownership of the hotel, but Maktouf clearly has not the CV to qualify for the hotel business. The guy is there to watch over money and wash money. And MC is the place for him to be. His link to the Grimaldis, and not only Albert but also Caro, shows clearly how deap in dirty business MC is. We have often scolded Albert on whom he is surroundig himself with, but I have found pics of Caro on several different occasions being pictured with this guy. That shed an entirely different light on ALL family members. JMO
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 8:19:17 GMT -5
Still Express never stated the exact time and date when she staged her escape, so how does he know that fatty had him eat with her. Your observation is what struck me the most about this man's alibi and I even posted in this post the information from the L'Expres article which clearly shows that no date and time was mentioned. as I mentioned in that post, I wondered if this man's statement was used as evidence in their suit against L'Express. If so, it is rather suspicious to me unless as I mentioned L'express mentioned in other legal proceeding their specific date and time. But still, they wouldn't have given this information BEFORE Albert filed. Perhaps this is why Lacoste was trying to get all the information about L'Express's sources BEFORE they filed suit - so they could line up their alibi witness. that's what I am thinking. Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time? I think we have several alibis from their side about the incident. None of them ring true and IMO they still do not know the time and date. Express surely did not reveal this until they actually go to court. And I suppose they will only reveal this in court in front of the judge without giving them the chance to bring decent proof. I bet that they have ordered several interested parties to give them affidavits for every single day about trashys whereabouts during that time, just to make sure that they have their butt covered. And that is why we have so many different versions about where she has been at that specific time. Too bad for them that they are making all of the public, spreading them in the press, at that robs them of any credibility.
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Post by hibou on Mar 12, 2012 8:20:25 GMT -5
Please look up the conditions "Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome"(AIS) and "intersex" and you will find a combination of these physical features as some of the manifestations for women: broad shoulders, narrow body (no waist, no natural breasts, no hips, no ass), long limbs, big hands, big feet and no pubic or underarm hair. Also, another feature for women is a large pubic mound that hides undeveloped testicles. Unfortunately for women who want to have children, this common is normally associated with infertility. Now my seemingly hypocrisy: Many women who suffer from this genetic condition often have a very difficult time in life because of public ridicule. I personally know one woman who is open about her intersexualty and another woman who I am convinced is one. Yet, I would never in a million years ridicule them! I have no idea if Charlene has this condition, but what bothers me about Charlene is how her flunkies publicly promote her as something that most sane human eyes can clearly see is not - the ideal model of feminine grace, elegance and style! Extreme example: I do not know if Janet Reno is intersex, but she definitely has many male features. This woman is brilliant and I admired her greatly. But, I would feel differently about her if she and a bunch of her flunkies were publicly promoting her as the ideal model of feminine grace, elegance and style! Thanks MyAdia. On Eringer someone keeps calling her a transvestite which she is not, but what you have posted fits the description better. I often wondered about Janet Reno myself. It's one thing to say that Charlene dresses like a tranny but calling her one doesn't seem to fit the issue, and as paca has mentioned there was a lot of doping going on in Germany and SA. It seems to me between the run-away-bride and her royal sourness on the red carpet that either she has a clause in the pre-nup that lets her out in a year or she's milking Albert for more and more cash. I'm just waiting for that explosive tabloid story to erupt. JMO. I sat amazed listening to her speech. It was obvious that this was the first time she had seen it. Her sight-reading skills are marginal, but then I may be giving her too much credit. She certainly couldn't read what was in front of her. It was painful to watch too. What was with the flinging arm thing she kept doing? With all Albert's money he couldn't hire a speech coach? Geez!
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 8:44:42 GMT -5
LOL he never got one himself. I have sat through several of his, the worst ones being the ones where he just got back from somewhere or had been partying the night before. So considering that,he did not have the courage to get a wife who could upstage him, holding brilliant speeches. He had to get himself someone just like himself. If it wasn't for their social positions, I would say they are truly made for each other. But considering who and what they are supposed to be, they need to be gotten rid off asap. They are the worst example for monarchies an the best argument for democracy. No democratic country would put up with them. And they know it, which is why they behave like the dictators they are and employ people who got put out of their jobs thx to the Arabic spring. It's dispicable.
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Post by margarita on Mar 12, 2012 9:11:42 GMT -5
Your observation is what struck me the most about this man's alibi and I even posted in this post the information from the L'Expres article which clearly shows that no date and time was mentioned. as I mentioned in that post, I wondered if this man's statement was used as evidence in their suit against L'Express. If so, it is rather suspicious to me unless as I mentioned L'express mentioned in other legal proceeding their specific date and time. But still, they wouldn't have given this information BEFORE Albert filed. Perhaps this is why Lacoste was trying to get all the information about L'Express's sources BEFORE they filed suit - so they could line up their alibi witness. that's what I am thinking. Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time? I think we have several alibis from their side about the incident. None of them ring true and IMO they still do not know the time and date. Express surely did not reveal this until they actually go to court. And I suppose they will only reveal this in court in front of the judge without giving them the chance to bring decent proof. I bet that they have ordered several interested parties to give them affidavits for every single day about trashys whereabouts during that time, just to make sure that they have their butt covered. And that is why we have so many different versions about where she has been at that specific time. Too bad for them that they are making all of the public, spreading them in the press, at that robs them of any credibility. "Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time?"I remember that too. The point is, that during the nuptials I can't remember Charlene wearing a hat. Neither did she wear a hat in the weeks after the wedding if I remember correctly. She uses to have her gown designed for each event she attends directly before. So I doubt this hat was done for an event some month later. IMO this is a silly lie. A hat is no big thing - why didn't the disigner take a light little hat and go to CW to Monaco. SHE is the VIP - not the designer. Maybe someone can tell me how VIPs use to work with designers ? CM7007??? And -sorry - which man remembers accessoires and details like "hat"? Only a gay-best-friend. To me it would have sounded more natural if he said, she was 'meeting a designer', maximum 'fitting some new wardrobe'.
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Post by margarita on Mar 12, 2012 9:19:42 GMT -5
BTW: thank you (whoever ) gave me a karma point as one disappeared while the forum was down.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 10:18:42 GMT -5
that's what I am thinking. Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time? I think we have several alibis from their side about the incident. None of them ring true and IMO they still do not know the time and date. Express surely did not reveal this until they actually go to court. And I suppose they will only reveal this in court in front of the judge without giving them the chance to bring decent proof. I bet that they have ordered several interested parties to give them affidavits for every single day about trashys whereabouts during that time, just to make sure that they have their butt covered. And that is why we have so many different versions about where she has been at that specific time. Too bad for them that they are making all of the public, spreading them in the press, at that robs them of any credibility. "Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time?"I remember that too. The point is, that during the nuptials I can't remember Charlene wearing a hat. Neither did she wear a hat in the weeks after the wedding if I remember correctly. She uses to have her gown designed for each event she attends directly before. So I doubt this hat was done for an event some month later. IMO this is a silly lie. A hat is no big thing - why didn't the disigner take a light little hat and go to CW to Monaco. SHE is the VIP - not the designer. Maybe someone can tell me how VIPs use to work with designers ? CM7007??? And -sorry - which man remembers accessoires and details like "hat"? Only a gay-best-friend. To me it would have sounded more natural if he said, she was 'meeting a designer', maximum 'fitting some new wardrobe'. I don't remember her mom wearing one either, but I might be wrong there
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Post by royalpauper on Mar 12, 2012 10:31:14 GMT -5
I was curious about how MC matin would report this visit. They state that trashy won a gold medal in the worldcup in 2002, but when you check the official lists, then her name is not there www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2002/melbourne2002/index.htm I don't think she was even there. In any case she is not in the starting lists of the competition she is supposed to have won the gold medal in. The gold medal was won by an Australian called Elka Graham. Most obviously MC press and PR are realizing how little trashy has achieved in her "carrer" that they are not above lying and making up things. Too bad for them that nowadays all sports events, rankings, times etc are official and public and posted on line. So unless they pay people to alter the records, they will always be found out as liars. And that will eventually get them back. They are probably hoping that people will just copy paste the false info and thus get it into the public, but the people who were there and the sports press knows the truth and has the possibility to out them as liars. And they will, when they find it necessary. Albert is IOC and as such he has to make sure that his wife does not claim false titles if he does not want to lose his reputation. Also athletes will not digest it well if she claims to have won medals she never came near to winning. If they continue her PR on that path, they might end up not having any athletes with a reputation wanting anything to do with MC. At present it seems that only people on the decline in their sport and those hoping to catch some scraps from the gravy train want their name linked to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/la-princesse-charlene-ouvre-lexposition-grace-kelly-en-australie.813982.htmlIf WC really won the gold medal in Australia wouldn't reporter mentioned that in her short introduction about her officially visiting their country. Reporter had nothing to say about her except that she wore a dress made by some local fashion designer.
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Post by royalpauper on Mar 12, 2012 10:37:19 GMT -5
Here's a new video that has not been posted and it includes footage of Charlene from getting out of the car to touring the exhibit. Creative, look at Charlene in this video, everything that you mentioned above is manifested in this video. I'm starting to believe that Charlene's family and flunkies dominate the sugar boards with the same constant adulation of Charlene's perfect figure, femininity, gracefulness, style and elegance because they are not trying to convince others but themselves. the video shows how awful that dress is on her and that the woman has no clue about how to move. Honestly, I believe any guy would walk better on heels than she does. That woman has no body control. She is always all over the place. Her choice of extremely high heels and her size force her to actually have to bend down to talk to people. She would need to chose flat shoes so she doesn't look like a hunchback all the time, or at least less of a hunchback. There used to be silent moviestars who never made it to the screen after sound was introduced. Trashy might just about be ok when she doesn't move, but in motion the woman is a total nightmare. I agree, she even walks bend down which makes her look like an ape. Someone needs to tell her to keep her wide mouth closed when greeting people....everything about her is simply UNGRACEFUL. You are right Paca, they should only show her image in pictures...which they can control and alter.
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Post by royalpauper on Mar 12, 2012 10:56:20 GMT -5
I sat amazed listening to her speech. It was obvious that this was the first time she had seen it. Her sight-reading skills are marginal, but then I may be giving her too much credit. She certainly couldn't read what was in front of her. It was painful to watch too. What was with the flinging arm thing she kept doing? With all Albert's money he couldn't hire a speech coach? Geez! I think you are wrong. I think WC had a speech coach and she spent weeks preparing and reading the speech someone else wrote for her. It's just that it didn't come out the way it was supposed to. ;D
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Post by sandsla on Mar 12, 2012 15:02:05 GMT -5
that's what I am thinking. Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time? I think we have several alibis from their side about the incident. None of them ring true and IMO they still do not know the time and date. Express surely did not reveal this until they actually go to court. And I suppose they will only reveal this in court in front of the judge without giving them the chance to bring decent proof. I bet that they have ordered several interested parties to give them affidavits for every single day about trashys whereabouts during that time, just to make sure that they have their butt covered. And that is why we have so many different versions about where she has been at that specific time. Too bad for them that they are making all of the public, spreading them in the press, at that robs them of any credibility. "Remember that her dad came up with the info that she went with her mom to Paris for a hat fitting at the time?"I remember that too. The point is, that during the nuptials I can't remember Charlene wearing a hat. Neither did she wear a hat in the weeks after the wedding if I remember correctly. She uses to have her gown designed for each event she attends directly before. So I doubt this hat was done for an event some month later. IMO this is a silly lie. A hat is no big thing - why didn't the disigner take a light little hat and go to CW to Monaco. SHE is the VIP - not the designer. Maybe someone can tell me how VIPs use to work with designers ? CM7007??? And -sorry - which man remembers accessoires and details like "hat"? Only a gay-best-friend. To me it would have sounded more natural if he said, she was 'meeting a designer', maximum 'fitting some new wardrobe'. Margarita, you hit all the points that just went through my mind about Charlene not wearing a hat and that a hat is no big deal....who travels to Paris to have a hat fitting? .
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 15:20:47 GMT -5
I sat amazed listening to her speech. It was obvious that this was the first time she had seen it. Her sight-reading skills are marginal, but then I may be giving her too much credit. She certainly couldn't read what was in front of her. It was painful to watch too. What was with the flinging arm thing she kept doing? With all Albert's money he couldn't hire a speech coach? Geez! I think you are wrong. I think WC had a speech coach and she spent weeks preparing and reading the speech someone else wrote for her. It's just that it didn't come out the way it was supposed to. ;D I agree with RP, Charlene practiced that speech a lot and that's the best she will get. She swings her arm to show emphasis to the person that she just mentioned in her speech. Think kindergartner - - point to the person for emphasis during your speech. She did the same for her Heart for Children speech.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 15:25:45 GMT -5
The dress design is worse than I thought, just look at the back of this dress. I beg anyone to please show me another royal who has ever worn anything like this to an opening at an art gallery. Please, anyone! Look at the audience, you will not find anyone dressed as Charlene. But, I will bet you anything that Charlene’s dress is the most EXPENSIVE one and that is what makes it appropriate classy elegant and of course appropriate in Charlene’s mind.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 15:40:22 GMT -5
The dress design is worse than I thought, just look at the back of this dress. I beg anyone to please show me another royal who has ever worn anything like this to an opening at an art gallery. Please, anyone! Look at the audience, you will not find anyone dressed as Charlene. But, I will bet you anything that Charlene’s dress is the most EXPENSIVE one and that is what makes it appropriate classy elegant and of course appropriate in Charlene’s mind. i43.tinypic.com/16lemna.jpgit looks like it is riped. Though I guess it was prefabricated and then the strips with the crystals added on to make it hold together. Looks like the designer underestimated those linebacker shoulders and didn't have enough fabric left. AdminNote: Removed display of photo from quoted text
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 16:02:34 GMT -5
More photos from other stops in Melbourne that Charlene made Pic1: Ambassador Caroline Fautrier, Honorary Consul Andrew Cannon, Charlene and John B Kelly, Princess Grace's Nephew at Monaco House in Melbourne Pic2: Charlene at Monaco House in Melbourne
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Post by hibou on Mar 12, 2012 16:14:44 GMT -5
I sat amazed listening to her speech. It was obvious that this was the first time she had seen it. Her sight-reading skills are marginal, but then I may be giving her too much credit. She certainly couldn't read what was in front of her. It was painful to watch too. What was with the flinging arm thing she kept doing? With all Albert's money he couldn't hire a speech coach? Geez! [/quot I think you are wrong. I think WC had a speech coach and she spent weeks preparing and reading the speech someone else wrote for her. It's just that it didn't come out the way it was supposed to. ;D LOL Kind of like all the designer clothes she wears. They look good on the models.
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Post by paca on Mar 12, 2012 16:27:27 GMT -5
More photos from other stops in Melbourne that Charlene made Pic1: Ambassador Caroline Fautrier, Honorary Consul Andrew Cannon, Charlene and John B Kelly, Princess Grace's Nephew at Monaco House in Melbourne Pic2: Charlene at Monaco House in Melbourne seems the only time she got decent flowers was at the mc house...
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 16:31:12 GMT -5
The little boy who Charlene kissed, Sam, was pleased and is enjoying all the attention he is getting for it. Also, besides busing in the children, it seems that their parents were bused in also - to make up the "crowd" along the stairs. The parents of each of the kids were standing behind them and the parents were very excited to be there. The palace knew before =hand about the kids since they asked that they kids not bring flowers. This was a very good idea for Charlene's promotional image and I wonder if Charlene requested it. If not, really think that Charlene will start requesting this type of rent-a-crowd - children and their parents - wherever she goes - and of course smacking kisses on them now. Read full article in the Bendigo Advertiser[/url]:
Strathfieldsaye's little charmer
by BRETT WORTHINGTON 13 Mar, 2012
STRATHFIELDSAYE’S Sam Rowe has been the talk of the town after securing a kiss from Princess Charlene of Monaco.
INTEREST: The Rowe family, Tim, Kaytie, Sam, Lachie and Donna, check out Sam’s picture of him and Princess Charlene in yesterday’s Bendigo Advertiser.
Sam, the 8-year-old son of Tim and Donna Rowe, had been waiting along with his grade three and four classmates for the royal visitor to arrive at Bendigo Art Gallery.
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“When we were on the stairs waiting, the kids had been told by people from the palace not to give her flowers,” Mrs Rowe said.
“But when the princess came past she said ‘they are so beautiful, I will have to give you a kiss’.
“I think he was really chuffed but he was a little bit embarrassed. Everyone was saying to him ‘you got kissed by the princess’.”
Bendigo’s primary schools had their names put into a hat to win the chance to greet Princess Charlene. ...
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 12, 2012 16:45:09 GMT -5
Another kiss - this time to a teenager who traveled from Sydney and waited for hours with his mom to see Charlene and waited afterward when he got his kiss. Read full article in Bendigo Advertiser.
First real kiss a royal occasion for lucky Sydney teenagerBRETT WORTHINGTON 13 Mar, 2012 AVID FAN: Thomas Powell travelled from Sydney to see Princess Charlene and the Grace Kelly: Style Icon exhibition in Bendigo on the weekend.
IT was the royal kiss he had waited all his life for.
Sydney’s Alicia Powell and her son Thomas, 17, travelled by plane, train and car to be in Bendigo for Princess Charlene of Monaco’s visit.
Ms Powell, a fan of Grace Kelly for more than 30 years, and Thomas have admired the royal family from afar and were determined to see the princess in the flesh.
They arrived in Bendigo on Friday and found a prime position outside the Bendigo Art Gallery before Princess Charlene’s arrival on Saturday.
“When she arrived we had been standing there for three hours lovingly chatting to Bendigo locals and the media,” Ms Powell said.
“When the princess arrived, we were competing against small children, the media and other locals and were not able to have that one-on-one experience.
“We decided to hang around and after one-and-a-half hours waiting... all the media had left and she came out.
“Thomas seized the opportunity and called out to her and she very graciously came over and very kindly accepted his flowers and said a few sweet words.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2012 16:50:52 GMT -5
What a laughing stock!!
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