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Post by agentf on Dec 4, 2012 10:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by hibou on Dec 4, 2012 13:45:36 GMT -5
Congrats to you both! Great school. This points out exactly that unlike Albert and Charlene, Andrea just goes about his life and accomplishes things without fanfare.
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Post by paca on Dec 4, 2012 14:02:43 GMT -5
Lol I did. And I think Pierre was there too, though I might have confused them... Good university with a great rep in medicine... the dentist I went to in Montreal studied there and till this day IMO he was the best I have ever been to. He was cute too
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Post by paca on Dec 4, 2012 14:11:02 GMT -5
Congrats to you both! Great school. This points out exactly that unlike Albert and Charlene, Andrea just goes about his life and accomplishes things without fanfare. LOL I think he wasn't there for more then a term or so. I think he went to quite a few different ones. I believe he ended at a private one in Spain.... just as he did with his schools... In the end it was always money that bought his degree and in that respect he is no different then Albert... word in MC was always that Caro was pretty troubled with her boys school performance. Charlotte was the only one who didn't cause problems, but then she tripped over the difference of what people told her and what the reality is. And she has still not recovered from the blow she received when she didn't make it to the elite schools... She may be smart, but not smart enough and she had fallen for those sucking up to her, telling her she was the most intelligent person on the planet... then she received her reality check by flunking the admission exams. Which for French system is still sth to be noted, as not many get as far as she got, but she apparently was convinced she would get in as well... now she rides horses....
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Post by hibou on Dec 4, 2012 20:39:33 GMT -5
Congrats to you both! Great school. This points out exactly that unlike Albert and Charlene, Andrea just goes about his life and accomplishes things without fanfare. LOL I think he wasn't there for more then a term or so. I think he went to quite a few different ones. I believe he ended at a private one in Spain.... just as he did with his schools... In the end it was always money that bought his degree and in that respect he is no different then Albert... word in MC was always that Caro was pretty troubled with her boys school performance. Charlotte was the only one who didn't cause problems, but then she tripped over the difference of what people told her and what the reality is. And she has still not recovered from the blow she received when she didn't make it to the elite schools... She may be smart, but not smart enough and she had fallen for those sucking up to her, telling her she was the most intelligent person on the planet... then she received her reality check by flunking the admission exams. Which for French system is still sth to be noted, as not many get as far as she got, but she apparently was convinced she would get in as well... now she rides horses.... Oh! So he only attended for a semester or two and didn't graduate. That's different. I got the impression that Charlotte did not study as hard as she could have to get into the elite Univ. If I remember correctly we saw photos of her here, there and everywhere leading up to taking the exams instead of disappearing to study. So it probably did come as a surprise to her that the exam separates out those who really want to be there and put effort into, and those that only think they do. Her riding is not great lately either. She's not putting a huge amount of effort into improving that either. She has great horses that are generous with her mistakes. There is a pattern here. It looks like what I see with lots of wealthy kids with no sense of direction, and no dedication or discipline. That's why I think Athina O. deserves some credit. Yes she has tons of money but she works hard on her riding and she is dedicated to the sport. She is different than the other jet-set kids in that respect.
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Post by agentf on Dec 4, 2012 21:00:34 GMT -5
This thread is about Andrea. I for one graduated however I, possibly like Andrea, did my minor in another university before graduating. I'm sure he moved on elsewhere to finish like I did. How the topic makes one jump to sport and his sister is beyond me. I'd say holding oneself up to Charlotte obviously frustrates some lesser-known horsey people. But to keep it topical, I don't think I've actually seen Andrea go to school on a horse, I could be wrong ;D
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Post by agentf on Dec 4, 2012 21:09:13 GMT -5
Lol I did. And I think Pierre was there too, though I might have confused them... Good university with a great rep in medicine... the dentist I went to in Montreal studied there and till this day IMO he was the best I have ever been to. He was cute too Being cute is in the water in Montreal!
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Post by paca on Dec 5, 2012 1:38:00 GMT -5
This thread is about Andrea. I for one graduated however I, possibly like Andrea, did my minor in another university before graduating. I'm sure he moved on elsewhere to finish like I did. How the topic makes one jump to sport and his sister is beyond me. I'd say holding oneself up to Charlotte obviously frustrates some lesser-known horsey people. But to keep it topical, I don't think I've actually seen Andrea go to school on a horse, I could be wrong ;D yes he did go on to quite a few other places...lesser known ones and mostly private ones, where you often get the impression that the rich send their kids there in exchange for horrendous fees and donations, so they can get a degree which they otherwise wouldn't get. There is nothing wrong in studying at different universities, though when you do globetrotting academically, you often have the problem, at least as a normal person, to get your credits recognized. While you stay in the same country it is easier, but even there you may encounter problems and lose out on time and money. That's why most people try to avoid it. Especially until they get their first degrees. Often you move to another place once you have received some honours from one place and want to persue your studies. As often by then you know what interests you and who would be the best teacher for you etc. It's a bit like finishing your apprenticeship and then having your wander years until you get your master...doing a 3 years course in just as many countries or more in countries with completely different educational systems to get the minimum degree seems a tad strange from an academical point of view. on a different note, I just came across an old article about his dads accident. Not a tabloid one, but about the sport mostly...pretty gruesome...I wasn't aware that you coud get severely injured even without having an accident.... the article made Russian roulette sound like an almost safe childs game
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Post by hibou on Dec 5, 2012 10:09:16 GMT -5
This thread is about Andrea. I for one graduated however I, possibly like Andrea, did my minor in another university before graduating. I'm sure he moved on elsewhere to finish like I did. How the topic makes one jump to sport and his sister is beyond me. I'd say holding oneself up to Charlotte obviously frustrates some lesser-known horsey people. But to keep it topical, I don't think I've actually seen Andrea go to school on a horse, I could be wrong ;D Chill out I actually like Charlotte. If you look at a lot of these threads we all get side tracked just go look at Charlene's no baby thread and lately it's about Kate. It's not a big deal. I actually paid you accompaniment about McGill. Your degree is from McGill. We don't know where Andrea's degree is from, but if you do. Let us know. Thanks and have a nice day.
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Post by paca on Dec 5, 2012 20:25:59 GMT -5
Actually from all I gathered none of Caros kids has a degree. Pierre apparently went to Milan. He flunked his first year, redid it and then did another year and a half before dropping out. Charlotte did eventually go to Sorbonne, but didn't finish. Then she did numerous internships until going back to riding. Andrea stayed half a year at Mc Gill, then left. I think he went on to NY then Paris and Barcelone. No degree is confirmed. Apparently he enrolled into a master course in two of his universities, though in some you do not have to acquired a BA before enrolling into the master course. Some claim that he got his master in NY, but he seems to be enrolled in the same topic master course in Barcelona, so I don't think it is true as no one does a master twice in different universities. My knowledge from the grape vines and people who know all the kids, both boys have always had difficulties in school. ANdrea more then Pierre though. Only Charlotte was fine. From the way I understand things, Charlotte suffered from some kind of depression after her failure, though I would call it rather a disillusionment with her abilities and self doubt. I suppose some counselling could have remedied this. It often happens that good students get a reality check once they touch down in the real world. They are not used to failure, like normal people and have not learned to cope with it. Unless they are fighters, that can lead to feeling low and giving up. Also I think not having to achieve anything in order to be able to live is not so helpful as it deprives people of some essential motivation. Someone said somewhere degrees are for employees and the Grimaldis are employer. I find that a bit short sighted. You don't have to be an expert or be first in class, but you have to have enough knowledge in order to be able to hire people who can do the job for you. IMO if they were nobodies, leading the normal rich kids life, no one would care. Their problem is that none of them wants to be seen as jetsetters or playboys, but none of them seems to be doing anything significant and noteworthy. Not on a regular basis that is. They show up here and there for good causes, sometimes they are hosting sth, but these things are not taking much time out of their days. Even Tatianas fashion thing is only done halfhearted and more or less an excuse to travel and to attend fashionshows. It's so she can say she is there on business and not for leisure... As I said there is nothing wrong with that, but at least own up to it and admit that you like to party or travel or go to fashion shows. And again there would be nothing wrong with not finishing an education and enjoying the inherited money, if they were just part of the rich crowd. Their problem is that they like to have a certain image and are cast by some as future leader. But you have to be qualified in sth to be a good leader and that is what neither of them is. Anyone with a normal public education can fool them and outsmart them. And that is pretty harmful in a leader. This also why a lot of communities have problems. Because those local politicians are no match for those business people who have all sorts of financial experts lawyers etc. at their disposal. And that way the often manage to get the communities to spend money unwisely. It is almost more important to have the right person in the city hall, then who runs the country. Because how the community spends the tax money determines our direct environment. And especially in MC, which is a really small place, you need to make smart decisions and not someone who can get easily conned. And we can see how easily Albert was conned. For Andrea I hope that becoming a father will give him some sense and a motivation to make sth out of his life. Maybe it's the kind of kick in the butt he needs.
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Post by agentf on Dec 6, 2012 10:39:48 GMT -5
Thanks but I hardly need the compliment as validation I thought you'd be hyper-sensitive about discussing so lengthily your daughter who you imagine is under some kind of obscure threat. No offense, but whether she climbs up with the right or left foot on a horse is of no particular interest on a royal blog. At least to me, maybe the others see a correlation. My bad. This thread is about Andrea. I for one graduated however I, possibly like Andrea, did my minor in another university before graduating. I'm sure he moved on elsewhere to finish like I did. How the topic makes one jump to sport and his sister is beyond me. I'd say holding oneself up to Charlotte obviously frustrates some lesser-known horsey people. But to keep it topical, I don't think I've actually seen Andrea go to school on a horse, I could be wrong ;D Chill out I actually like Charlotte. If you look at a lot of these threads we all get side tracked just go look at Charlene's no baby thread and lately it's about Kate. It's not a big deal. I actually paid you accompaniment about McGill. Your degree is from McGill. We don't know where Andrea's degree is from, but if you do. Let us know. Thanks and have a nice day.
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Post by agentf on Dec 6, 2012 10:49:16 GMT -5
If it's any consolation, even common mortals are flawed in school. After my B.A., it wasn't a sure shot into law school. Two attempts failed until I decided to concentrate on civil law only (you are encouraged to learn common law in Canada) and got accepted at Laval where I foolishly thought I could be a few weeks late (because friends were caught in 9-11 in NYC) and was turned around. I'd have had to wait a year and by then my biological clock was hitting me over the head at each daybreak. Not like McGill where I parachuted into a Russian politics course halfway through, or arrived halfway late for another exam on Qc politics and swam. I miss McGill, but my heart is in Qc city if I ever turn back. (Thanks for letting me overshare). Bottom line, my education makes me more of a smartass than actually applies to my current career. Andrea and the other kids I'm sure can still thrive. They have their father's business genes and their mother's political intelligence. Men don't mature until they're in their 40s, in my opinion and experience. Actually from all I gathered none of Caros kids has a degree. Pierre apparently went to Milan. He flunked his first year, redid it and then did another year and a half before dropping out. Charlotte did eventually go to Sorbonne, but didn't finish. Then she did numerous internships until going back to riding. Andrea stayed half a year at Mc Gill, then left. I think he went on to NY then Paris and Barcelone. No degree is confirmed. Apparently he enrolled into a master course in two of his universities, though in some you do not have to acquired a BA before enrolling into the master course. Some claim that he got his master in NY, but he seems to be enrolled in the same topic master course in Barcelona, so I don't think it is true as no one does a master twice in different universities. My knowledge from the grape vines and people who know all the kids, both boys have always had difficulties in school. ANdrea more then Pierre though. Only Charlotte was fine. From the way I understand things, Charlotte suffered from some kind of depression after her failure, though I would call it rather a disillusionment with her abilities and self doubt. I suppose some counselling could have remedied this. It often happens that good students get a reality check once they touch down in the real world. They are not used to failure, like normal people and have not learned to cope with it. Unless they are fighters, that can lead to feeling low and giving up. Also I think not having to achieve anything in order to be able to live is not so helpful as it deprives people of some essential motivation. Someone said somewhere degrees are for employees and the Grimaldis are employer. I find that a bit short sighted. You don't have to be an expert or be first in class, but you have to have enough knowledge in order to be able to hire people who can do the job for you. IMO if they were nobodies, leading the normal rich kids life, no one would care. Their problem is that none of them wants to be seen as jetsetters or playboys, but none of them seems to be doing anything significant and noteworthy. Not on a regular basis that is. They show up here and there for good causes, sometimes they are hosting sth, but these things are not taking much time out of their days. Even Tatianas fashion thing is only done halfhearted and more or less an excuse to travel and to attend fashionshows. It's so she can say she is there on business and not for leisure... As I said there is nothing wrong with that, but at least own up to it and admit that you like to party or travel or go to fashion shows. And again there would be nothing wrong with not finishing an education and enjoying the inherited money, if they were just part of the rich crowd. Their problem is that they like to have a certain image and are cast by some as future leader. But you have to be qualified in sth to be a good leader and that is what neither of them is. Anyone with a normal public education can fool them and outsmart them. And that is pretty harmful in a leader. This also why a lot of communities have problems. Because those local politicians are no match for those business people who have all sorts of financial experts lawyers etc. at their disposal. And that way the often manage to get the communities to spend money unwisely. It is almost more important to have the right person in the city hall, then who runs the country. Because how the community spends the tax money determines our direct environment. And especially in MC, which is a really small place, you need to make smart decisions and not someone who can get easily conned. And we can see how easily Albert was conned. For Andrea I hope that becoming a father will give him some sense and a motivation to make sth out of his life. Maybe it's the kind of kick in the butt he needs.
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Post by paca on Dec 6, 2012 11:26:48 GMT -5
Well, I think with the Grimaldi males they don't have maturing in their DNA. Rainier was an exception. His grandfather already was a playboy and a pretty bad prince. Albert I was a scientist but a bad prince. Without Alice they wouldn't have had the most cultured era in MC history. All before that were mostly absent. Monegasques had traditionally a bad relation with their prince and only endured them. They weren't loved. Rainier changed that.
I still maintain that the need to make a living usually sorts people out and get some sort of carreer. Maybe not the one they started out for. Life is not that predictable. But more or less people make their way. If you don't have to work to live the highlife, why do it? That is one reason, why you have drug, alcohol and a preferrence for highrisk sports in these circles.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 18, 2013 3:47:28 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2013 6:18:19 GMT -5
pretty chubby. I know it's just a baby, but he is a pretty non-discript baby. He looks a lot like Tatiana. Andrea looks more motherly then Tatiana IMO. NOt liking the way she is holding him. She doesn't look very warm or motherly in these pics. And at his age he needs to have a hat on to protect him against the sun. They seem pretty awkward with him, considering he was born 4 months ago. Especially Tatiana IMO. She is holding him like trashy was holding that poor dog which has disappeared...
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2013 6:26:12 GMT -5
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 18, 2013 6:50:13 GMT -5
it is a rat???
how stupid can you be?
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