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Post by sandsla on May 27, 2011 18:45:59 GMT -5
Here are some more photos of the fine porcelain souvenirs that are available - complete with the posters. I wonder how they are selling. Will they got the title correct "Manufactured" I'd say that pretty much sums it up!
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Post by sandsla on May 27, 2011 18:39:30 GMT -5
That´s creepy... From the beginning of their relationship, magazines wrote about how she looks like Grace. And no one complained about an Oedipuss complex. Who's hair is that suppose to be? ;D ;D ;D Is she suppose to be wearing a Grace wig? That thin thread of hair around the ponytail is the only hair Charlene has, maybe in her in her dreams . The coin doesn't resemble either one of them at all, just their own fakes selves they imagine themselves to be, but what else would someone expect from these two or Monaco House of Fraud? Someday I'm sure I'll find them very amusing--I hope it's soon! Albert has managed to ruin a place I use to admire and SUPPORT!. Someone needs to draw a couple of horns on them! The antigrace for sure!
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Post by sandsla on May 27, 2011 18:19:45 GMT -5
Wow! I can't even think of the word Monaco now without literally feeling sick to my stomach--the reality of all this trumped up....I don't even know what to call it? It truly makes me feel ill, because it just embodies everything wrong with the world....talk about to hell in a hand basket!!! OMG!!! I don't know why this has such an impact on me, but It makes me really angry!! You know, I am actually looking forward to Charlene causing all of them the hell they deserve for doing this! I am really having a hard time believing Albert et al are going through with this defrauding freak show. Now this women's face and memory can haunt Monaco forever! If I was Andrea I wouldn't want to have anything to with that mess either! What a legacy Albert has left him, that is if they don't procreate, and if they do, I absolutely think that will end this familie's legacy! I can only guess that is what some people must have in mind here??? Albert has made a complete mockery of his and his families position there! I really don't know why Albert bothers doing anything else now, when it is obvious in choosing to marry Charlene, just how Albert rates character or any kind of virtue. It's like he's mocking everything he does and every one he tries to honor--he really does not get this!. I"m sorry this is the wrong thread to rant, but I can't bring myself to look at another post right now about these people! The whole thing really makes my stomach turn! Albert might as well have married Tamara, at least it looks like she may have done a half way decent job with Jasmin....on Albert's money of course, but hopefully Jazmin is someone that will take advantage of her circumstances (in spite of her parents) and be a decent person in the world. Why Albert waited so long to marry just another scheming gold digging tramp, at least Tamara must have had a better brain on her, even if she didn't have a conscience....Albert sure doesn't seem to have one either, because he hasn't done any better dragging around with Charlene. I can't believe Caroline has not stuck it to Albert for doing this..I'm sure Albert likes to remind her of some of her own choices (all men she actually cared for), but regardless, there are a lot of people that are still able to find them likable, and that is a lot more than anyone can say about Charlene. As much as Albert is trying to emulate it, I just don't see how he doesn't get that he has done the opposite of his dad.....his dad was smart enough to marry someone people in the world loved....while Albert is dead set on running around and marrying a women that "he knows" people despise and loath....and he does not care? I hope that wedding causes them every pain of embarrassment and humiliation that they deserve for making a mockery out of everything and everyone. OK I think I've said my peace for the day! By the way, Hi Ladies!
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Post by sandsla on May 23, 2011 0:20:12 GMT -5
Cool!
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 22:16:50 GMT -5
EXACTLY. When all is said and done, Charlene will look like the victim...but in reality, she isn't...Monaco is the victim. That's right they are setting it up nicely for her! Thanks for the England info.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 22:14:11 GMT -5
Thtregoddess11!! This is all interesting info. And about marrying and staying with the guy for 2 years, i already had a feeling that this marriage would only last 2-3 years. It fits perfectly. She has been with Albert dispite all the cheating, bad press, etc, because she wants the title. Kids? No way, she doesn't want to be tied up to Monaco, so she always avoid them in conversation. Plus, 2-3 years and no having kids is quite good, they don't need to have kids right away. And, she always will try to look like the victim: "Albert pressured me to have kids, i wasn't ready...he had many affairs even before marrying..." so she will want some money, the title, and will let Albert as the bad guy of the movie. Just like we keep saying: Charlene dumps them when she no longer needs them. She will do exactly the same with Albie. Exactly the same. EXACTLY. When all is said and done, Charlene will look like the victim...but in reality, she isn't...Monaco is the victim. That's right they are setting it up nicely for her!
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 22:07:49 GMT -5
You know, I've went through the pics again and I think she looks... scared? Like she's afraid things will not come through? Am I alone in this one? You are not. I think she grabs his arm because is like she feel she needs desesperately to send a love image, and probably she knows the affair Albert is having, she is afraid of loosing everything in the very last minute. So she grabs him. I believe she is afraid of loosing everything, she is an insecure woman, that's why all the surgeries (or at least one of the reasons of all the surgeries) among other things. Emmaline I noticed the theme song for Charlene....what about the song "I'm your prostitute" ;D I think that is the name. Every time i hear it, I think it would be good music to put to a Charlene video.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 22:02:51 GMT -5
LOL guys you are all mistaken: the PR campaigners superglued her arm to his to sell the roadshow; she does simply not have a choice. the campaigners forgot to hand out the right injections and medication to create the faces to go with it. Well, that's what you get when you're dealing with amateurs Come on ladies, Charlene is the new serene grace - she's so sweet kind innocent and even angelic. How can you think that this woman is faking her attachment to her sugar daddy husband-to-be? Here's another photo of her still attached. Isn't that one of her names she uses? The funny thing is she used the same terms in other posts using another name--she always gives herself away- myadia you are tight, she picked that name for a reason. This girl really thinks she is Grace Kelly! FreaK
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 21:39:49 GMT -5
I can not believe I am writing on this thread. The only think that could be make me interested in this wedding is if they called it off.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 21:37:30 GMT -5
I think the dress for the ceremony will be Lagerfeld hence his interest in the British wedding ( I don't remember him doing any commenting on previous royal weddings) and Armani will be doing one for the evening or maybe the civil ceremony. I think she will be sporting at least 3 different outfits. I agree Paca! Also, Karl's photo shoot of Albert and Charlene and his several public statements extorting Charlene is a giveaway that he is involved some how. There are at least four opportunities on the two wedding days alone for Charlene to make her fashion statement to the world - civil wedding dress, evening dress after the civil ceremony, religious wedding gown and a gown for the wedding dinner. Trust me, Charlene Wittstock wants to make herself known as a fashion icon - the Princess of Fashion - as her friends coined the phrase on her Facebook. What better way to do this than to have at least FOUR different top designers to design haute couture outfits specifically for you. Remember, unlike any other European royals, Charlene doesn't have to answer to the public about her extravagant spending on clothes. More importantly, she has an unlimited budget not just because Albert has the money but because Albert and the morons who advise him have decided that dressing Conlene in the most extensive and expensive attires will boost Monaco's image and attract tourists to Monaco. Promoting Charlene as the "New Grace" and the flagship of Monaco is so terribly sad. The morons in Monaco have no idea just how stupid and shallow they sow themselves to be with this eventually very destructive strategy. Uf he is Karl is stupid to want to be associated to Charlene (he is smart enough to know what she's like), plus she is not Kate--people do not care for her, if they could be bothered to recognize her. If Albert had married someone else that people could like and Albert had not made himself look like some juvenile retard by dating this moron then Karl would probably be the obvious choice for a bride of Monaco, but Charlene who was an ambassador for Armani or was meant to be--maybe they stopped that before when they saw Charlene wasn't helping them any? Really, who wants to be associated to this cheap tacky Chartard! I am not supporting anyone or anything that would support this girl. Charlene is not going to be liked in New York either at this rate, not that she would normally but they would maybe have otherwise just ignored her--she may be targeted if she keeps pissing off designers and people of the fashion world, when she is a big zero nobody. Although if they are already calling her out and making digs about her, that could be a lot of fun! That article did not just hide a little dig in the copy-- they made the choice to insult her in the headline! Lets she what the same people have to say about her on the day of her wedding. I so hope this backfires for Albert and the palace--the only reason she is there is because they thought they could turn her into some fashion icon, but it sounds like they are already sharpening their knives before she has walked down the aisle. This girl has no idea what she is in for. She thinks Albert's money is going to protect her--she is use to getting the sugar board treatment, so is Albert.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 20:42:16 GMT -5
Why should Caroline be Monarch.....where to start. I thought Albert might have been able to be a very good Monarch, but it seems his personal life takes priority. He doesn't want to be the CEO, but the rep. I don't have any confidence in someone as a monarch who could marry this girl, I kept thinking he might be able to turn it around if he ever got rid of this idiot girl for whatever reason she is there, and eventually people might forgive him his past choice of ever bringing her to Monaco as his kept women. These two clearly live in their own reality! So by default alone, but there are so many other reasons and one very important one is she was the one doing the heavy lifting all these years and holding the fort down. She has class, culture and maturity and more importantly a brain in her head, besides I think most female Monarchs have for the most part been well respected and strong monarchs--they are always remembered, so they must have made an impact. Albert is going to be remembered for being juvenile and his cheap ignorant trashy faux wife, but that seems to be what he wanted to be known for?
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 19:47:51 GMT -5
CM: "True, but she's not really remembered for her contributions to prostitution or "whoredom" - she's remembered for her greatness as an Empress and her cultural contributions to mankind." YES - and I read in several books about her, spoke to Russians and had some lessons in Russian history I guess Kings=men (especially back then) always used to have fun with many women beside their wifes. They had the power and the money - like Ekaterina II. For a macho it is very hard to take when there comes a woman and does the same with men: choose them, use them, dump them and be a great sovereign. She was no prostitute but had fun and acted like a man. A woman who can't be controlled and is no service staff for other Kings ... but at eye level. There was a certain protocol to it. In France during the 16th and 17th century a married woman was allowed one lover at a time (most did not stick to this rule ). I should say I think they did publicly, everyone knew who everyone's lover was then though and it was allowed. Men could have more than one mistress, but if they were in the same town as their spouse they were not suppose to stay over night. Most of them set up house together and their spouses were at a separate houses or they were away fighting some war and sometimes their spouses and lovers were often good friends. The difference is marriage "then" was a business deal (for almost everyone) that had to do with their family and the family name and status, and having kids to pass your family name down to. It was what marriage was about "then". That would not work for anyone in the western world today--publicly anyway. Also you were not allowed to get pregnant by tout lover, but if you did, you stayed close to the husband and the husband would pretend like it was his. Also they could just sleep with anyone as their mistress, their lover's status had to be on a par with their own. For instance how old the family line was, made a difference, being royal by sword was higher than being royal by the robe (?) (by appointment of a king?). In other words the Grimaldi's would not have actually been thought of as pirates I guess--they would have in fact probably had the higher ranking? And how far your family line goes back made a big difference--the further back, the most likely you were royal by the sword. Your family line needed to be at least 300 years to be anyone and I think that was on the low end, your lover needed to match your rank and also be a royal if you were. If anyone remembers they were always talking about how Louis xv married his brothel girlfriend to a royal so he could have her as a mistress, otherwise she couldn't hang around him at court--no one liked or respected her, but technically because of the royal marriage that was arranged by the king she was allowed to be there. I think if a royal tried these days to hark back to this time, they would have a lot of problems especially since they have no choice but to appeal to the public and the norms of society of the day. They cannot live by separate rule--there is no court life for them today. I think Prince Charles found this out in the 1980's and maybe his own family failed to see the problem thinking he could get away with what they did, when it was a different era, even as recent as their time might seem. It just went to show them how out of touch their thinking was that Charles could marry a young women that he hardly know and keep his mistress on the side. It doesn't make a difference that he barely knew DI, or what the deal was at the beginning, or if privately she knew about Camilla. There relationship didn't fly in the public eye whatever the agreement was between them, even in England. Di knew to use the public and the media against the royal family--she sucked up to the public for power--remember she wanted to be the People's princess. Charles did what he thought he was afforded as a Royal and his personal life undid him (he was not afforded a mistress in the public eye, no one cared who he was?) People didn't understand his nonchalance about it? He thought it was his birth right but then a lot of English men do? Still it was unpopular and it affected his role as a Monarch. It destroyed his reputation forever and made him a lame duck. The fairytale wasn't much of a fairytale, no one could watch it when they knew the truth. It looks like Albert did not heed the example of Charles. The thing is in any world Charlene could not even qualify to be a mistress, and Albert's idea that he is some how doing this for public reasons and that is OK or to produce an heir is even scarier to people and it's 2011. I think Albert should take a lesson from Charles and Di and see how that worked out for them, and Diana had some Royal blood and grew up in that world. She could form a sentence at least and still had a lot more going on than Charlene, even if she was a a bit of a media whore too, she was much more savvy than Charlene with dealing with people and she had some attributes and virtues, like she had some empathy for people. Most important she was not a prostitute , she did not take piles of cash , and she did not live off Charles. Charlene comes across like one stone cold self involved glorifying gold-digger, she's a women who probably would not get an invitation as a simple dinner guest, I can't believe the place thought people were going to scramble to see her, she is no different than one of Hefner's wife and the job would probably be much more fitting for her. I mean Charlene is cold, and she has to be pretty steely to not let what people have to say about her effect her at all, I mean not to care enough to take heed and try to rectify some weaknesses and vulnerabilities that she has to take on the role she wanted. She fordn't care, she still doesn't care if the people of Monaco like her, she got Albert to marry her anyway--she uses the sugar boards to pretend like people like her instead of actually doing something to endear people to her and really get someone to like her. She doesn't care if anyone likes her as long as she thinks they have to look up to her. I am very sorry to get carried away this should be about Carolinem I hate to drag the subject of Charlene >:(into Caroline's thread. That why i cam over here.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 18:43:26 GMT -5
You may also like to read about Empress Catherine the Great of Russia. She is considered to be one of the greatest rulers of all time - she had dozen and dozen of lovers. I never heard her being referred to as a whore. Well, if I rememberit correctly, the King of Prussia Frederick the Great called Catherine ' the crowned' prostitute. True, but she's not really remembered for her contributions to prostitution or "whoredom" - she's remembered for her greatness as an Empress and her cultural contributions to mankind. [/quote] And she didn't really have much of a choice, her retarded husband wasn't getting the job done so the Empress passed the information to her that no one would mind if she where to have an affair. I think she was also afraid of her nephew's genes. Catherine was a smart cookie, and she liked to have affairs with smart men that she could learn things from. Catherine's kid I think all had different fathers, but they had to have turned out better than her one time husband who had the royal blood. It was her predecessor that was really known for being the nymphomaniac I think?
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 18:18:32 GMT -5
ROFL is > i'll bet she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, G-rated?> because i don't think she needs anymore qualifications than that for her job as concubine JMO WRONG!!!!!!!! [ahem karma!] And Creative knows what she's talking about!
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 18:09:52 GMT -5
Thtregoddess11!! This is all interesting info. And about marrying and staying with the guy for 2 years, i already had a feeling that this marriage would only last 2-3 years. It fits perfectly. She has been with Albert dispite all the cheating, bad press, etc, because she wants the title. Kids? No way, she doesn't want to be tied up to Monaco, so she always avoid them in conversation. Plus, 2-3 years and no having kids is quite good, they don't need to have kids right away. And, she always will try to look like the victim: "Albert pressured me to have kids, i wasn't ready...he had many affairs even before marrying..." so she will want some money, the title, and will let Albert as the bad guy of the movie. Just like we keep saying: Charlene dumps them when she no longer needs them. She will do exactly the same with Albie. Exactly the same. I don't think she would have kids if she doesn't have to they are only a means to an end for her, either to get Albert to marry her, or to get to stay in Monaco if there is a divorce, or to keep her title, or more money or if Albert dumps her and takes away her fake title and wants to give it to someone else, she might want to be the mother to the heir. I don't know if they are really planning to have kids, considering the whole wedding deal seems to be a farce as well as the relationship, I think someone might call into question the legitimacy of an heir between them, even if it looks legal on paper, or hundreds of years ago. No one would want a kid from these two on the throne, because before it's over it's going to be a three ring circus. I think Albert knows he left it a little late and that it would only tie him to Charlene for the rest of his life if it all goes wrong and it will unless he drops dead before that unfolds.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 17:48:45 GMT -5
Thtregoddess11!! This is all interesting info. And about marrying and staying with the guy for 2 years, i already had a feeling that this marriage would only last 2-3 years. It fits perfectly. She has been with Albert dispite all the cheating, bad press, etc, because she wants the title. Kids? No way, she doesn't want to be tied up to Monaco, so she always avoid them in conversation. Plus, 2-3 years and no having kids is quite good, they don't need to have kids right away. And, she always will try to look like the victim: "Albert pressured me to have kids, i wasn't ready...he had many affairs even before marrying..." so she will want some money, the title, and will let Albert as the bad guy of the movie. Just like we keep saying: Charlene dumps them when she no longer needs them. She will do exactly the same with Albie. Exactly the same. You guys this has been a business deal from day one, Charlene does not see it as cheating because that is part of the deal? He gets to be a free agent, and that is part of the wedding deal too, But Albert for some reason isn't counting on the other woman or anyone else who wants to set him up and embarrass him publicly, I mean he has proved to be so easy to black mail? If this idiot could get Albert to do something as stupid as to marry her then I doubt it takes much to set him up! If Albert's philandering goes public that is only good for Charlene....she gets to be the wronged wife and insist on an even bigger payout no matter what her contract is, because Albert can't publicly say they have an open marriage after he dragged everyone to his farce of a wedding and was deceptive to everyone in the media. Charlene is probably happy that Albert finds his sexual gratificatiion somewhere else--she doesn't care if Albert loves her as long as he marries her. I think that has been perfectly clear since she arrived there, her only fear was that a relationship with someone else would cost her the job she thought she was entitled to! At first when she tried to sue for being referred to as Albert's girlfriend, i thought for some reason Albert may have put her up to it, because he was possibly planning to end it with her and it would come out (by Charlene's own mouth) that the whole thing had been a business deal, so he might have just been covering his bases just in case everyone found out there wasn't a real relationship, but actually I think it was an attempt or threat by Charlene to Albert that she was going to spill the beans publicly and that she wasn't really Albert's "girlfriend" and the whole thing was a manufactured deal--she was looking to pressure him, if he didn't make her his wife! She was trying to threaten him into proposing? I wish some journalist would ask her about that one day! By the way I don't think Charlene doesn't do Albert--she would do anything to get that ring,but I think Albert is going to get a lot less lucky with her at least on lonely nights now that she has what she wants. Charlene wants to be glorified she doesn't want to be loved.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 17:13:37 GMT -5
No problem. Just found the name of the rugby player: Andre Pretorius. He had been married previous to his "relationship" with Charlene. Things got nasty, and they went their separate ways. She was engaged to him until 2004. After him, CW got involved with a variety of people. Then CW got the idea in her head to find a rich husband (was Monaco her target?), marry for 2 years, and divorce. She mentions in one of her posts awhile back or rather asks if Charlene had a baby they would have to take care of her for life wouldn't they? As the mother of the heir? She whould get to stay in Monaco? If she could hang on to her title and all the money she would be happy to do anything, but she wants to stay in Monaco, and who would date or marry Albert with trollop attention getter fake exwife hanging around under her nose. This will undo Albert, whatever damage she hasn't already caused him-someone just hand him the nail! What about her experience in England and Charlene's own drug issues? Do you know anything about that? Also Charlene has at least a little something in her past by how she words it when she is trying to deny that Charlene has any skeletons in her closet--she always words it the same way--always!. It is not that Charlene doesn't have anything (but that they haven't "surfaced" and that no old boyfriends have come forward "yet" so apparently she believes there is still a possibility but she thinks Albert can pay to keep it quiet including the fact that Albert has been paying her cash all these years! Not just taking care of her but paying her cold hard cash every month for playing girlfriend, she does not think Albert loves her, it is all a business deal, she only cared that Albert didn't fall in in love with another woman and marry her. She doesn't give a rats ass about how Albert feels about her if she gets to be princess, that is all she cares about. Even Esther admitted that Albert would could pay to make Charlene's past go away! I hope someone is waiting for a big pay out, it would be such a nice wedding gift for them! Charlene and her family are opportunist and they are going to spill the beans one day when they feel they are not getting enough, Charlene is stupid enough to do it herself.They have been threatening blackmail for a long time if Charlene didn't get her Tiara. I don't know why Albert surrounds himself with the lowest of the low and then makes himself vulnerable by telling the worse possible people he could tell, all his secrets.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 16:55:37 GMT -5
Thtregoddess11, the fact that Lynette has moved to Monaco (or a few feet away in France) officially until the wedding has been in the media and confirmed by ALL parties involved (Charlene discussed this in several interviews) - even Michael Wittstock - just read the Wittstock interview thread. It is not even debatable and it doesn't matter whose house she's sleeping at in MC or Eze or Roc Agel France - she's not living in South Africa under her husband's watch - that's the point. I didn't say that Bunte photographed Charlene's so-called swimming camp. I specifically stated the photographer was South African - which if you look at the Getty caption for the photos his name is listed (and it is not Michael Wittstock). My point is that it was obvious that these photos were a publicity stunt since a Bunte reporter was THERE when the photos were taken. Just the idea that the session was even done shows that it was a publicity stunt. No one needed any secret sources to tell them this. Bunte did a story when these photos were taken. I am not going searching for these things because it doesn't make any sense since we all agree that this was just a photo opportunity for Charlene. It was quite obvious Albert was trying to build her up and peddle her-- he thought he could get a few covers and some interest around her for being blond I guess He was looking for any controlled publicity to cover up all that she is lacking. I don't think anyone missed that early publicity was all Albert and Charlene eager for the attention! great thread obviously it will be a short one, I can see now that we are already having to fill it up with filler. ;D When I have time I will upload her big Olympic moment unless anyone else wants to...it is none existent. I don't think SA gets a mention even before and after the race when they show the different teams at the start. There were only about 10 teams to start with, so 5th place was 5th to last as much as it was 5th from the top. I wanted to add the footage also of the guy that year who couldn't swim and the other two swimmers were disqualified, so he swam the race alone-he could barely finish just to get back and forth across the pool and yet he must have won his race! wanted to include that for the people who say just getting to the Olympics is a big deal and Charlene should get through life on this!
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 16:46:46 GMT -5
Who will attend? anyone who is looking for a handout or a favor that is the only reason anyone would attend this fakeass thing! I imagine the Swedes have to go since Albert went to their wedding, I am sure he made the wedding rounds for the last few years to insure the gathering up of debts to his own wedding some day. I guess Edward and Sophie will probably go. I believe anyone who can possibly can get out of the charade will! I can't imagine many are eager to associate themselves with this fiasco and Albert's gold-digging bride. If he wants a big attendance I think he is going to have open the place up as Stadium seating to anyone who shows up! Grab a seat and free drink! You could not pay me to watch this! After that date Monaco is a lost cause and so is Albert. Andrea is going to really have his work cut out for him bringing Monaco back, after these two have ran everything into the ground, no wonder Andrea is worried about having to take over some day.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 16:28:14 GMT -5
They still look like father-daughter in some pics. I think they look like father - daughter in ALL pictures. I hope that WC never takes picture with Albert and her mom, because everyone will think that Albert and her mom are married and WC is their daughter. I was thinking the same thing RP, and yes Charlene not only looks like his daughter, but she acts like it to! Albert sees her as a subordinate that is clear--everything is about what Albert tells Charlene to do, and she acts up more like a spoiled disobedient child even when she is trying to be defiant. She didn't learn French because Albert didn't tell her to! It's always because it was someone else's job to tell her to! She takes no responsibility for herself EVER, her actions, her inaction, or what comes out of her mouth She is such a child! If someone doesn't require something of her she could not possibly think to do it on her own. Although I am sure she was careful to play obedient until she gets the ring on her finger and walks down the aisle. Charlene doesn't need Albert for one thing after she is POM because now with the embarrassment she can cause him as his wife, those roles are going to be reversed, especially because she is a girl without a conscience or an ounce pf integrity, and she's dumber than a box of rocks-nothing can embarrass her. I hope Caroline hands him a nail when he walks down the aisle.
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